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Tim Ferriss · 2021-06-23

Q&A with Tim — Exercise And Morning Routines, Holotropic Breathwork, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show

Tim Ferriss answers fan questions on his morning and exercise routines, holotropic breathwork, self-compassion, meaning, and managing trauma.

Q&A with Tim — Exercise And Morning Routines, Holotropic Breathwork, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show
The guest

Tim Ferriss: Author, investor, and host of The Tim Ferriss Show, known for The 4-Hour Workweek and for interviewing world-class performers about their habits and routines. Here he flips the format to be the guest in a solo Q&A with his supporter group.

What this episode covers

In this solo Q&A, Tim Ferriss responds to questions pre-submitted and live-streamed from his fan-supporter community. He walks through his current 2021 morning routine and weekly exercise regimen (acro yoga, rock climbing, weight training, and walking), and discusses joint-pain management, fasting, and his return to the slow-carb diet. He goes deep on psychological and philosophical topics, including his recent struggles with the meaninglessness of life, self-compassion versus a hard-charging attitude, ontological shock from childhood trauma, and the fear of being misunderstood. He also covers holotropic breathwork, psychedelic research, sleep optimization, and shares numerous book and tool recommendations throughout.

Recommended on this episode

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Four Sigmatic Mushroom Coffee

Four Sigmatic

“i am a huge fan of both four sigmatic mushroom coffee and layered superfood creamer”
“as long-term listeners will know i am a huge fan of both four sigmatic mushroom coffee and layered superfood creamer i had both this morning”— Tim Ferriss
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Laird Superfood Creamer

Laird Superfood

“i am a huge fan of both four sigmatic mushroom coffee and layered superfood creamer”
“i am a huge fan of both four sigmatic mushroom coffee and layered superfood creamer i had both this morning in fact”— Tim Ferriss
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Voodoo Floss

Kelly Starrett

“i found tremendously helpful also to use after climbing”
“voodoo floss created by my friend kelly starrett i found tremendously helpful also to use after climbing for the arms specifically”— Tim Ferriss
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Kumare

“i would strongly suggest that you watch a documentary called kumare”
“i would strongly suggest that you watch a documentary called kumare i don't want to ruin it so just watch the trailer”— Tim Ferriss
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Radical Acceptance

Tara Brach

“radical acceptance which is a fantastic fantastic book”
“radical acceptance by tara brock... if you want to consider radical acceptance which is a fantastic fantastic book”— Tim Ferriss
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Awareness

Anthony de Mello

“it is a constant source of nourishment with incredible after effects”
“the book awareness by anthony demello it is a constant source of nourishment with incredible after effects”— Tim Ferriss
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Already Free

Bruce Tift

“i found this book to be a kin after reading say the first 50 to 75 pages to taking off a hundred pound backpack you didn't even realize you'd been carrying”
“one by bruce tift t-i-f-t the book is already free... i found this book to be a kin to taking off a hundred pound backpack”— Tim Ferriss
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The Overstory

Richard Powers

“it is incredibly good... i recommend it to everyone it contains a lot of beauty”
“i finished reading the overstory which is a pulitzer prize winning novel it is incredibly good... i recommend it to everyone”— Tim Ferriss
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Schitt's Creek

“which is absolutely hilarious... it's outstanding it is really well done”
“right now that's shit's creek that's s-c-h-i-t apostrophe s creek which is absolutely hilarious the episodes are extremely short”— Tim Ferriss
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The Artist's Way Morning Pages Journal

Julia Cameron

“there is a morning pages workbook that i use it is literally on my kitchen table right now... that is definitely one of my go-to practices”
“morning pages as described by julia cameron there is a morning pages workbook that i use it is literally on my kitchen table right now”— Tim Ferriss
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Bird by Bird

Anne Lamott

“which is also one of my favorite books on the craft of writing and fiction which is really also a great book on the craft of living”
“bird by bird as one might say which is also one of my favorite books on the craft of writing and fiction”— Tim Ferriss
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Make Good Art

Neil Gaiman

“you could also read make good art or better yet watch the commencement speech make good art”
“you could also read make good art or better yet watch the commencement speech make good art by neil gaiman”— Tim Ferriss
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California Poppy

“california poppy is very helpful for me at least with sleep”
“california poppy is very helpful for me at least with sleep and i do not want to take melatonin on a daily basis”— Tim Ferriss
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Oura Ring

Oura

“i do wear the aura ring... which i find to be extremely helpful to establish your baseline”
“i track my sleep quality with something like the aura ring i do wear the aura ring o-u-r-a which i find to be extremely helpful”— Tim Ferriss
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Eight Sleep Pod Cover

Eight Sleep

“i now use a cover on my bed from eight sleep which i find to be tremendously helpful for both speed to sleep and quality of sleep”
“i now use a cover on my bed from eight sleep which i find to be tremendously helpful for both speed to sleep and quality of sleep”— Tim Ferriss

The guest's own work

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The 4-Hour Body

Tim Ferriss

“it's something along the lines of say saying occam's protocol in the four hour body or kettlebell swings it's very basic”— Tim Ferriss
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The 4-Hour Workweek

Tim Ferriss

“some form of dreamlining is outlined in the four hour workweek but i will very frequently take the 80 20 analysis”— Tim Ferriss
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Tools of Titans

Tim Ferriss

“i have written about sleep quite extensively in tools of titans i'll mention just a few things california poppy is very helpful”— Tim Ferriss
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The 4-Hour Chef

Tim Ferriss

“the four-hour chef this book that i wrote which was the hardest book to put together is in fact a book about accelerated learning”— Tim Ferriss

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Pique Tea

Pique

“getting downstairs to have poo air tea usually peak p-i-q-u-e puair tea and i'll alternate black and green”— Tim Ferriss
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GORUCK

GORUCK

“taking a weighted backpack i use goruck for training purposes and just going for long hikes in old growth forests”— Tim Ferriss
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Man's Search for Meaning

Viktor Frankl

“i'm going to re-read victor frankel's book man's search for meaning which i've been meaning to reread for a very long time”— Tim Ferriss
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Smile at Fear

Chogyam Trungpa

“i also have a book a friend recommended called smile at fear i can't vouch for it yet because i haven't read it”— Tim Ferriss
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Yes to Life

Viktor Frankl

“also check out victor frankl's yes to life it's a compilation of lectures he gave before publishing man's search for meaning”— Tim Ferriss
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Scattered Minds

Gabor Mate

“the book by gabor mate scattered minds touches a lot of important topics on importance of early development”— Tim Ferriss
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What to Expect When You're Expecting

“well before what to expect when you're expecting came out even though i hear that's a very good book”— Tim Ferriss
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Ted Lasso

“asking for an easy feel good series to binge watch and ted lasso lasso came up repeatedly it was probably one of the top three”— Tim Ferriss
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Phosphatidylserine (PS)

“there are some people who will take phosphatidylserine otherwise known as ps which i did take say last night before bed”— Tim Ferriss
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Magnesium L-Threonate

“magnesium l-3 and 8 is a version of magnesium that is preferentially absorbed in the brain that can also be quite interesting”— Tim Ferriss

Big reveals from this episode

  • Tim candidly admits that for the past several months he has had constant thoughts about the meaninglessness of life and significant angst around death, and shares his plan to reboot via rereading Frankl and biographies of people who found meaning.
  • Tim reveals he is no longer hesitating about having children and is actively seeing fertility doctors, going through the 'pre-flight checklist'; his past hesitation stemmed from doubts about being a good father and a genetic predisposition to depression.
  • On self-compassion versus grinding, Tim argues there are counter-examples of friends with outsized financial success who were not self-flagellating, concluding self-compassion carries very little downside even in your 20s and 30s.
  • Tim shares his 'jacket/smoking jacket' analogy: meditation and therapy don't make you lose your edge; you simply learn to take the edge off and put it back on when genuinely needed, as he did to handle a stalker threatening his family.
  • Tim breaks down 'ontological shock' (a term he first heard from Roland Griffiths), explaining how a single mystical or trauma-surfacing experience can take weeks, months, or years to reconcile with ordinary reality.
  • On the fear of being misunderstood, Tim offers the reframe that we dramatically overestimate how much others think about us, since everyone is the lead actor in their own 'me me me movie.'

Worth remembering

  • Tim's morning routine starts with 20 minutes of meditation (often transcendental meditation), then Pique tea or coffee, often with Four Sigmatic mushroom coffee and Laird superfood creamer.
  • He organizes his week thematically, batching activities like phone calls into dedicated days (e.g., Tuesdays) rather than spreading them across every day.
  • His exercise routine includes acro yoga twice a week (started in quarantine via Zoom with instructor Jason Nemer), climbing twice a week, weight training 1-2 times, and substantial daily walking.
  • Holotropic breathwork was created by psychiatrist Stan Grof as an alternative to psychedelics after they were made illegal; 'holotropic' means turning toward wholeness.
  • Tim warns that legitimate well-trained indigenous practitioners essentially never call themselves 'shamans'; self-described shamans are a red flag.
  • For joint pain he uses Kelly Starrett's Voodoo Floss and contrast therapy via a chest freezer converted into a cold plunge (he warns to unplug it first to avoid electrocution).
  • Tim notes that doing intense breathwork (like Wim Hof or holotropic) after a psychedelic dose can have a multiplicative effect, making 50 micrograms of LSD subjectively feel like 100-200.
  • He is back on the slow-carb diet and still aims for a 72-hour water fast once per month plus at least one week-long fast per year.
  • Tim reads roughly three to five hours per week, typically before bed for 30-60 minutes, significantly more when traveling.
  • For sleep he uses California poppy, magnesium L-threonate, the Oura ring for tracking, and an Eight Sleep bed cover, noting caffeine's quarter-life is about 12 hours.