Sleep neuroscientist Matthew Walker returns with new research debunking magnesium, the 8-hour myth, and unveils a sleeping pill he actually trusts.

Matthew Walker: Neuroscientist and professor specializing in sleep, author of the bestseller 'Why We Sleep,' and one of the world's most prominent voices on the science of sleep.
Matthew Walker walks Steven Bartlett through the latest sleep science, including new evidence that you can 'bank' sleep before a period of deprivation and that heart health (unlike other systems) can recover from weekend catch-up sleep. He introduces his framework of four sleep macros (quantity, quality, regularity, timing) and argues regularity now beats quantity at predicting mortality. He debunks popular fixes like the blue-light scare, high-dose melatonin, and magnesium supplementation, while explaining why ashwagandha and phosphatidylserine can help. The conversation covers the function of REM and deep sleep, nightmares as a suicide-risk biomarker, the new DORA class of sleeping medications that promote naturalistic sleep, genetic short sleepers, and how fasting and ketosis disrupt sleep via orexin. It closes on a personal note about love, conflict, and not taking partners for granted.
Merck
“the doras drugs, please look into them if you're struggling with insomnia... the first new class of sleeping medication that I actually favor”— Matthew Walker
Eisai
“the doras drugs, please look into them if you're struggling with insomnia... the first new class of sleeping medication that I actually favor”— Matthew Walker
Idorsia
“the doras drugs, please look into them if you're struggling with insomnia... the first new class of sleeping medication that I actually favor”— Matthew Walker
Matthew Walker
“my life after publishing the book that you're holding changed forever and almost all for the better”— Matthew Walker
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“There is one form of magnesium that seems to have some evidence in favor of it. It's called magnesium L-threonate”— Matthew Walker
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“Ashwagandha and another compound called phosphatidylserine... both of these supplements seem to help do one of two things”— Matthew Walker
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“they either ratchet down the fight-or-flight branch of your nervous system, and they can also reduce the amount of cortisol”— Matthew Walker
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“when it comes to melatonin, be careful. More isn't always better. And you run the risk of confusing your morning brain into a dense nighttime fog”— Matthew Walker
Sunovion
“the web 2.0, those were things like Ambien, Lunesta, Sonata”— Matthew Walker
Pfizer
“the web 2.0, those were things like Ambien, Lunesta, Sonata”— Matthew Walker
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“he had been treating his war veterans... with a blood pressure medication called prazosin... it ultimately became one of the only prescribed medications... for repetitive nightmares”— Matthew Walker
Calm
“the meditation company called Calm, now I have no affiliation with them... they created sleep stories... they are wonderfully soporific”— Matthew Walker
Whoop
“my sleep will reduce to about five, six hours. My Whoop scores plummet until I kind of come out the other end”— Steven Bartlett
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“when my friends often like talk to me about... take modafinil and everything will be fine... I go, Yeah, but what's the trade-off?”— Matthew Walker
Christopher Nolan
“Clive was the man who the movie Memento was based on, which is a movie where a man has brain damage and he has profound amnesia”— Matthew Walker