KneesOverToesGuy Ben Patrick tells Tim Ferriss how backward sleds, deep squats, and Charles Poliquin's lessons fixed his knees.

Ben Patrick: Known as 'KneesOverToesGuy,' a coach and founder of ATG who overcame chronic knee pain and multiple surgeries to build a minimalist knee-training and joint-health system based on training the knees-over-toes position.
Ben Patrick recounts going from a stiff teenager nicknamed 'old man' with chronic knee pain and a partial kneecap replacement, quad tendon reattachment, and meniscus transplant, to dunking pain-free for over a decade. The turning point was discovering Charles Poliquin's work, which contradicted the mainstream 'don't let your knees go over your toes' rule and led him to backward sled dragging, full-range deep squats, and front-foot-elevated split squats. He explains his three core training principles, his minimalist twice-a-week program, and the histories behind tools like the sled (traced to Westside Barbell and Finnish tree-draggers) and the tibialis 'tib bar' (from Mr. Universe Bob Gajda's 'DARD' device). The back half turns to Tim's philosophy on integrity, audience capture, and why he walked away from a potentially nine-figure supplement business to protect his audience's trust.
ATG
“we were chatting a bit before recording about some of your different pieces of equipment and I told you that I really liked your wrist bar.”— Tim Ferriss
Torque Fitness
“Particularly the sleds I really like, like the Torque sleds, which I own. I love them.”— Tim Ferriss
ATG
“I think tib bar and now it's a pretty common device. Like you can even go on Amazon and buy tip bars.”— Ben Patrick
Tim Ferriss
“I first met Charles because he reached out to me after reading the 4-hour work week, my first book, and he had applied a lot of it to his business”— Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss
“And then we connected and Charles ended up in the 4-hour body. He introduced me to myofascial release and active release technique.”— Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss
“things that you can do to stabilize everything else in effect that I did put some of in Tools of Titans with say some of Peter Tia's exercises”— Tim Ferriss
Elite FTS
“One of Louis Simmons disciples, Dave Tate, who made the if you've heard of Elite FTS, they made the Prowler style sled.”— Ben Patrick
Bob Gajda
“And he invented this device that he called a dard. D A R D. I think it was dynamic axi resistance device.”— Ben Patrick
ATG
“people can look at the resisted treadmill that you have also through ATG, how much does that cost? 600.”— Tim Ferriss