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Lex Fridman · 2019-03-20

Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16

Eric Weinstein on artificial life, the dangers of self-replicating software, the collapse of theoretical physics, academia, and saving capitalism.

Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
The guest

Eric Weinstein: Mathematician, economist, and managing director of Thiel Capital who coined the term Intellectual Dark Web.

What this episode covers

Eric Weinstein joins Lex Fridman for a wide-ranging conversation that opens with humor, intelligence, and Tom Lehrer before turning to his concept of 'artificial outtelligence' - the idea that non-intelligent self-replicating software can parasitize humans without ever achieving general intelligence. He argues we have grown dangerously complacent about existential threats like nuclear war since 1945, and that society has lost a needed sense of seriousness. Weinstein delivers a sharp critique of academia and theoretical physics, calling string theory an 'affirmative action program' for Baby Boomer physicists and describing the field as the greatest intellectual collapse in academic history despite physics being humanity's most important community. He also discusses unified field theory, the failures of social media platforms, and his worry that capitalists are courting revolution by abandoning the dignity of ordinary workers. He closes with a message about struggle, failure, and self-compassion.

Recommended on this episode

MediaRecommended

A Bridge on the River Kwai

David Lean

“I would recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it”
“I would recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it, a movie called A Bridge on the River Kwai, about I believe captured British POWs”— Eric Weinstein
BookRecommendedISBN verified

The Double Helix

James Watson

“Oh, you have to read this book”
“You ever read The Double Helix? Oh, you have to read this book”— Eric Weinstein

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

MediaReferenced

Kung Fu Panda

DreamWorks Animation

“You mention Kung Fu Panda as one of your favorite movies. It has the usual profound master student dynamic going on”— Lex Fridman
MediaReferenced

The Day After

“There was a TV show called The Day After that had a huge effect on a generation growing up in the US”— Eric Weinstein
BookReferencedISBN verified

Love and Math

Edward Frenkel

“Edward Franco, Berkeley professor, author of Love and Math, great title for a book”— Lex Fridman
BookReferenced

What Is Life?

Erwin Schrodinger

“Schrodinger wrote What is Life and that was highly inspirational”— Eric Weinstein

Big reveals from this episode

  • Weinstein introduces 'artificial outtelligence' - software with variation, heritability, and differential success can parasitize humans without being intelligent at all.
  • He advocates resuming above-ground nuclear weapons testing to break society's complacent 'video game mode' about existential danger.
  • He calls string theory 'largely an affirmative action program for highly mathematically talented Baby Boomer physicists.'
  • He declares theoretical physics has suffered 'the greatest intellectual collapse ever witnessed within academics.'
  • He claims this building is where the conspiracy between the National Academy of Sciences and NSF to destroy academics' bargaining power using foreign labor was assembled.
  • He argues capitalists are courting authoritarianism and revolution by failing to sustain the dignity of median workers.
  • He proposes 'hyper capitalism coupled to hyper socialism' as the path forward.

Worth remembering

  • Only a few Tom Lehrer songs broke into the general population: Poisoning Pigeons in the Park, the Element Song, and the Vatican Rag.
  • Tom Lehrer's plagiarism song about Lobachevsky was itself plagiarized from Danny Kaye's 'Stanislavsky.'
  • The Ophrys orchid mimics a female pollinator to trick males into pseudocopulation, saving energy by not producing nectar.
  • The Lampsilis mussel lures bass with a fleshy lip resembling a fish, then clamps its young onto the bass's gills.
  • A religious school in Kerala developed something close to calculus, including infinite series, through prayer and prose.
  • C. elegans has only about 300 neurons, raising the question of whether it has a low level of consciousness.
  • Frank Wilczek, born 1951, may be the youngest person to contribute to the standard model at a theoretical level.
  • Dirac predicted the electron's antiparticle, and Heisenberg challenged it by asking why the proton didn't share the electron's mass.