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OpenClaw: The Viral AI Agent that Broke the Internet - Peter Steinberger | Lex Fridman Podcast #491

OpenClaw: The Viral AI Agent that Broke the Internet - Peter Steinberger | Lex Fridman Podcast #491

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Claude Opus 4.6

Anthropic

“Opus is the best”
“as a general purpose model, Opus is the best. Like, for OpenClaw, Opus is extremely good in terms of role play.”— guest
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Codex (GPT-5.3)

OpenAI

“I like Codex more”
“I like Codex more because it doesn't require so much charade. It will just read a lot of code by default.”— guest

The guest's own work

ProductBy the guest

OpenClaw

Peter Steinberger

“for the longest time, the only way to install it was git clone, pnpm build, pnpm gateway. Like, you clone it, you build it, you run it.”— guest
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PSPDFKit

Peter Steinberger

“this led to the development of PS PDF kit that's used on a billion devices. So, the... It turns out that it's pretty useful to be able to open a PDF.”— host
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Trimmy

Peter Steinberger

“I built one I call Trimmy, that's specifically for agentic use. When you select text that goes over multiple lines it would remove the new line”— guest

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Claude Code

Anthropic

“My first touchpoint was cloud code, like in April. It was not great, but it was good.”— guest
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Cursor

Anysphere (inferred)

“And then I experimented a lot with cursor. Um, that was good. I didn't really like the fact that it was so hard to have multiple versions of it.”— guest
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Perplexity

Perplexity AI

“let me look this up on Perplexity, how OpenCall works just to see if I'm missing any of the stuff.”— host
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Eight Sleep

Eight Sleep

“And why do I need my Eight Sleep app to control my bed when I can tell the agent to... turn off what I don't use.”— guest
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Sonos

Sonos

“Why do I need a Sonos app anymore when I can... when my agent can talk to the Sonos Speakers directly.”— guest
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MiniMax

MiniMax (inferred)

“And then he signed up for Mini Max for 10 bucks a month and uses that.”— guest
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Her

Spike Jonze (inferred)

“we talked about the movie Her, and at one point it promised me that it wouldn't ascend without me.”— guest
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Doctor Who

BBC (inferred)

“Originally, it was actually a lobster in a, in a TARDIS, because I'm also a big Doctor Who fan.”— guest
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Factorio

Wube Software (inferred)

“It felt like Factorio times infinite. I feel like I built my little playground. Like, I never had so much fun than building this project.”— guest