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Lex Fridman · 2022-05-04

David Buss: Sex, Dating, Relationships, and Sex Differences | Lex Fridman Podcast #282

Evolutionary psychologist David Buss explains the science of human mating, sex differences, jealousy, and violence with Lex Fridman.

David Buss: Sex, Dating, Relationships, and Sex Differences | Lex Fridman Podcast #282
The guest

David Buss: Evolutionary psychologist at UT Austin and one of the founders of evolutionary psychology, known for research on human mate selection and sex differences. Author of The Evolution of Desire, The Dangerous Passion, and the textbook Evolutionary Psychology.

What this episode covers

David Buss walks through the evolved psychology of human mating, explaining why men and women differ in mate preferences, the role of physical cues to fertility and resources, and how status, jealousy, and infidelity shape relationships. He argues mating is central to human civilization and distinguishes long-term pair bonding from short-term and mate-switching strategies. The conversation explores darker themes including intimate partner violence, jealousy, homicidal ideation, serial killers, and incels, while insisting on studying 'what is' rather than 'what ought to be.' Buss and Fridman also discuss pornography, dating apps, polyamory, cancel culture in science, and end on love, mortality, and the meaning of life. Buss frames meaning as experiencing the rich array of evolved psychological mechanisms most people never activate.

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The Dangerous Passion: Why Jealousy Is as Necessary as Love and Sex

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“so i've written a whole book on this uh called the dangerous passion um why jealousy is as necessary as sex and love”— guest
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Big reveals from this episode

  • Buss notes there is no recorded case in human history of women forming a war tribe to attack and capture men, framing organized warfare as overwhelmingly male.
  • Over 70% of women who have affairs fall in love with the affair partner versus about 30% of men, evidence Buss uses against the 'good genes' theory.
  • Buss advances his contrarian 'mate-switching hypothesis' that affairs are a way for women to trade up or exit a costly relationship.
  • Buss controversially argues men dominate positions of power partly because of women's evolved mate preferences for high-status men.
  • In the 'Sophie's choice' jealousy studies, men are more upset by sexual infidelity while ~85% of women say emotional infidelity bothers them more.
  • Buss reveals his wife died of cancer and that watching her decline made his own death less frightening.
  • 91% of men and 84% of women have admitted to homicidal ideation in Buss's research.
  • Buss notes Ted Bundy's killing spree began shortly after he was rejected by a high-status, attractive woman.

Worth remembering

  • Standards of beauty like clear skin, lustrous hair, and a low waist-to-hip ratio are cues to youth, health, and fertility, not arbitrary social constructs.
  • Humans evolved concealed ovulation unlike chimps, which Buss argues co-evolved with long-term pair bonding.
  • In hunter-gatherer societies people 'store meat in the bodies of other people' through reciprocal sharing, a Steven Pinker framing.
  • Women misperceive how thin men want them to be; men actually prefer a midpoint figure, contributing to eating disorders being 9-10x more common in women.
  • The 'people vs things' occupational interest is one of the largest psychological sex differences and grows larger in gender-egalitarian countries like Sweden.
  • Amotz Zahavi's 'testing of a bond' theory suggests people inflict costs on partners to verify commitment.
  • Sexual fetishes are far more common in men, possibly because early sexual experiences classically condition males to specific cues.
  • About 80% of pornography consumers are men, reflecting the larger male desire for sexual variety.
  • Sweden and Norway now have among the lowest homicide rates on earth despite a violent Viking past, which Buss finds reason for optimism.
  • Buss recommends taking a stress-test road trip, ideally to a foreign country, before committing to a long-term partner.