Social psychologist Sheldon Solomon argues the fear of death secretly drives nearly everything humans build, believe, and destroy.

Sheldon Solomon: Social psychologist at Skidmore College and co-developer of Terror Management Theory. He co-authored 'The Worm at the Core' and built decades of experiments on how mortality awareness shapes human behavior, extending the ideas of Ernest Becker.
Sheldon Solomon explains Terror Management Theory: humans alone know they will die, and most of culture, self-esteem, religion, and politics exists to manage that terror. He traces the idea from Ernest Becker, Kierkegaard, and Heidegger, and recounts experiments showing that subtle death reminders shift how people vote, consume, and treat outsiders. The conversation ranges across Locke and Marx on economics and inequality, the rise of charismatic demagogues amid economic pain, consciousness, and whether an artificial intelligence would need mortality to become truly human. Solomon and Lex close on love, faith as a leap, the loneliness of consciousness, and the value of confronting death to live fully.
Ernest Becker
“ernest becker's book denial of death had a big impact on my thinking about human cognition consciousness and the deep ocean currents of our mind”— host
Sherwood Anderson
“the sherwood anderson guy he's a novelist that i like about uh he wrote a book called winesburg ohio”— guest
Yuval Noah Harari
“i'm with uh a harare with the sapiens that we're kind of we seem to construct ideas on top of each other and that's a fundamentally a social process absolutely i think that's a fine book”— guest
Albert Camus
“i will tell you the last line of the plague we learn in times of pestilence that there's more to admire in men than to despise and i love that”— guest
Carson McCullers
“i i'm enamored with a novel by a woman named carson mccullers written in 1953 called clock without hands and i find it a brilliant literary depiction”— guest
William Faulkner
“i like faulkner absalom absalom is is a fine book”— guest
BBC
“i think the british version is actually more brilliant than the american one but both are pretty amazing”— host
Sheldon Solomon, Jeff Greenberg, Tom Pyszczynski
“you've written the book warm with the core that death is at the core of our consciousness of everything of how we see the world”— guest
Alexander Smith
“it was alexander smith in in a book called dreamthwarp i think it's written in the 1860s he just says right in the middle of an essay it is our knowledge that we have to die”— guest
Ellen Dissanayake
“another woman ellen dizzinayake wrote a book called homo aestheticus and following aristotle and his poetics she's like well we're not only rational animals”— guest
Ernest Becker
“he had one more after he died called escape from evil and evidently it was supposed to originally the denial of death was supposed to be this giant thousand page book”— guest
Ernest Becker
“there's another book the birth and death of meaning uh which is framed um in from an evolutionary perspective”— guest
Jordan Peterson
“jordan was working on his maps of meaning and we were publishing our work and i i think jordan at the time um was concerned about our vague claims”— guest
Steven Pinker
“jordan didn't mind me uh knocking liberal political philosophy on those grounds that would basically be like stephen pinker's blank slate”— guest
John Locke
“he starts in his second treatise on government 1690 or so he he just he says okay let's start with a state of nature”— guest
Herman Melville
“melville does the same thing in moby dick where he he thinks about will there ever come a time where we run out of whales”— guest
Karl Marx
“we need to start with marx's economic and philosophical manuscripts of 1844 before marx became more of a polemicist”— guest
Thomas Piketty
“the thomas pickerty guy who writes about capital and just makes the point that return on investment will always be greater than wages”— guest
Jared Diamond
“i'm with jared diamond you know in the book collapse where he points out studying um the collapse of major civilizations that it often happens right after things appear to never have been better”— guest
Hannah Arendt
“hannah arendt in the 1950s said the same thing in her book about totalitarianism when she said that you know that economics has reached the point”— guest
Richard Dawkins
“i'm going here from richard dawkins uh the selfish gene you know to i love the early dawkins”— guest
Martin Heidegger
“a year or two ago i i started reading uh martin heidegger i'm reading being in time and what i now wonder is why um why becker who refers to heidegger”— guest
“you got the the stoics and you got the epicureans and then you got the tibetan book of the dead and then you got like the medieval monks”— guest
David Sloan Wilson
“it's david sloane wilson wrote a book called darwin's cathedral and he said religion has nothing to do with death it's a it evolved to make groups viable”— guest
Amin Maalouf
“amin malouf a lebanese guy who writes in french who in the 1990s i think wrote a book called in the name of identity violence and the need to belong”— guest
Erich Fromm
“it's eric fromm uh in a book called escape from freedom he's like look you you're smart enough to know that the most direct way that we typically communicate”— guest
Steven Pinker
“stephen pinker i do agree with his claim and i think how the mind works that it is the key question for the psychological sciences”— guest
Oswald Spengler
“another lunatic oswald spangler who wrote a book called decline of the west and he says that the philosopher the german philosopher guerta”— guest
James Joyce
“it took me 40 years to read ulysses i could not get past the first five pages and it took me 40 years to read being in time it's a slog”— guest
Thomas Sowell
“there's a thomas soul uh wrote a book about uh recent book on um charter schools yeah i would like to talk to him”— host
iRobot
“i have a bunch of roombas here i can show it to you after uh that i have roombas as a robot that has um vacuums the floor and i've had them um make different sounds”— host