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Lex Fridman · 2022-02-16

Devon Larratt: Arm Wrestling | Lex Fridman Podcast #265

Arm wrestling legend Devon Larratt breaks down strength, technique, trash talk, his special forces past, and the climb to face Levan Saginashvili.

Devon Larratt: Arm Wrestling | Lex Fridman Podcast #265
The guest

Devon Larratt: Canadian arm wrestler widely considered one of the greatest of all time, dominant with both left and right hands, and a former Canadian special forces soldier known for his charisma and endurance.

What this episode covers

Devon Larratt joins Lex Fridman for a deep conversation on the sport of arm wrestling, covering its evolution, the role of strength versus technique, and his training philosophy built on high-volume, low-failure 'never fail' Russian methods. He recounts pivotal matches against rivals like Dennis Cyplenkov and Michael Todd, his preparation to face the feared Georgian Levan Saginashvili, and the boxing camp he did to fight strongman Hafthor Bjornsson. He opens up about love and partnership with his wife Jody, his special forces service, and his fascination with mortality and immortality. The talk closes on robots, AI, aliens, and Larratt's hope that nations could settle conflict through arm wrestling.

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“i actually really enjoy over the top the movie”
“i actually really enjoy over the top the movie with uh sylvester stallone where he's a trucker it's like a father-son movie”— Lex Fridman
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Vision Quest

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“folk style collegiate wrestling has uh vision quest um what else is there billiards says color of money”— Lex Fridman
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“what else is there billiards says color of money yeah this is uh the sort of movie for arm wrestling”— Lex Fridman
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Big reveals from this episode

  • Larratt reveals he prepared for the Michael Todd rematch while battling DVT and pulmonary embolism, turning his life around to dominate the match.
  • He admits Dennis Cyplenkov completely destroyed him left-handed and that on no single day of his career could he have beaten Dennis.
  • Larratt credits Russian training philosophy ('never fail, always feel good') with massively transforming his training over the North American 'no pain no gain' mindset.
  • He describes a strange near-spiritual 'release' after a hard-fought match with Ron Bath where a fire seemed to rip through his spine, leaving him sore for months.
  • Larratt confirms he served in the Canadian special forces and got shot on his first combat tour, training for arm wrestling throughout.
  • He says he agreed to fight strongman Hafthor Bjornsson in boxing and trained four weeks in fighter dorms at Tristar despite expecting to lose.
  • When asked if he would choose immortality, Larratt says no, while Lex says yes, sparking a debate on whether mortality gives life meaning.
  • Lex reveals a new legged robot was delivered mid-podcast and will likely be the robot he shows the world in the coming months.

Worth remembering

  • The 'Over the Top' movie was based on a real tournament with a trucker division won by John Brzenk, hailed as the greatest arm wrestler ever.
  • Larratt ate bacon, pancakes and 'every sloppy bit of garbage food' daily to bulk up for a match, joking he should write a 'pancake diet' book.
  • He believes in 'tower building': many easy, specific workouts a day to maximize total volume rather than chasing personal records.
  • Levan Saginashvili reportedly curls 300 pounds with one arm, his arm-wrestling-specific strength far ahead of the field.
  • Larratt explains strength as 'chains' of technical movements (cupping, pronation) rather than raw bicep curling power.
  • He calls the voice a powerful, underutilized weapon, and uses trash talk against opponents, their fans, and even their wives during matches.
  • Larratt identifies as a '22-second guy' who wins through endurance and attrition, beating peers around 20 seconds while power pullers aim to win in one.
  • He now mostly eats meat, saying his mind feels clearer on it, but won't recommend it to anyone else.
  • He cites a heart-attack study suggesting how you feel about your food matters more than what you eat.
  • Larratt notes both China and the US have declined to limit autonomous weapon development, unlike the global ban on bioweapons.