The guest
Cameron Hanes: Bowhunter, ultramarathon runner and author known for his extreme 'Keep Hammering' training ethos and longtime friendship with Joe Rogan; recently quit his day job to run his own podcast.
What this episode covers
Joe Rogan welcomes longtime friend Cameron Hanes on the launch day of their Kill Cliff 'Elk Blood' CBD drink collaboration. The conversation roams from the brutal reality of bears, wolves and predators versus the Disney-fied image people hold, to debates over public-land hunting access and whether social media cheapens or grows the sport. They dig deep into MMA matchmaking and weight cutting, then pivot to gear, supplements, the carnivore diet, and recovery tools. A long final stretch covers media suppression, vaccine mandates and 'compliance,' pharmaceutical corruption, and Hanes' personal breakthrough in betting on himself, with Rogan closing on jealousy as a self-defeating instinct to convert into inspiration.
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Big reveals from this episode
- Cam and Joe launch their Kill Cliff 'Elk Blood' octane CBD drink collaboration on the day of taping.
- Cam reveals he quit his longtime day job to run his own podcast, crediting Joe for pushing him for years.
- To celebrate the podcast's success, Cam is giving away a brand-new Ford truck and $10,000 cash through his website.
- Joe recounts that early third-party testing found Alpha Brain contaminated with trace vitamins from shared manufacturing bins, forcing Onnit to switch manufacturers.
- They scrutinize the viral Pfizer CEO 'imagine the compliance' sensor-pill clip and find it was about Abilify MyCite with key context edited out.
- Joe says Onnit funded a Boston Center for Memory study that showed Alpha Brain produced positive increases in verbal memory.
Worth remembering
- Settlers preferred bear meat (closer to beef) and killed deer mainly for hides; a dollar became a 'buck' from the value of a buckskin.
- A study of seven radio-collared brown bears found they killed roughly 238 moose and caribou calves over 45 days, about 34 per bear.
- A pack of nine wolves slaughtered 19 elk in Wyoming in 2016 in a rare instance of surplus killing.
- James Cameron taught himself filmmaking by photocopying dissertations at the library, effectively earning a 'doctorate' for about $1,200.
- During the Canadian wildfire smoke event, breathing New York City air was likened to smoking half a pack of cigarettes a day.
- Protein per cut cited: elk and deer ~38g, moose 37g, turkey 36g, bear ~33g, with elk's fat being unusually calorie-dense fuel.
- Certified Piedmontese cattle carry more protein per ounce than average beef because they are far leaner, almost like wild game.
- Hanes says eating bear (a predator) makes him feel stronger and more aggressive, echoing Rickson Gracie's red-meat aggression theory.
- Both note hunting lacks a craft 'scene' like comedy; Hanes leans on mentors like Rinella, Callaghan and Greentree for knowledge.
- Public-land share varies wildly: Oregon ~60%, Alaska ~95%, while Texas has roughly a million bowhunters and only ~5% public land.
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