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Lex Fridman · 2020-03-09

David Goggins 48 Hour Challenge - 4 Miles Every 4 Hours | Lex Fridman

Lex Fridman attempts a David Goggins 48-mile challenge solo, running four miles every four hours while reflecting on twelve things he's grateful for.

David Goggins 48 Hour Challenge - 4 Miles Every 4 Hours | Lex Fridman
The guest

Lex Fridman: AI researcher and host of the Lex Fridman Podcast, known for long-form conversations with scientists, engineers, and thinkers. Here he is both host and subject of a self-imposed endurance challenge.

What this episode covers

Inspired by a David Goggins Instagram challenge, Lex attempts to run four miles every four hours for 48 hours (48 miles total) plus jiu-jitsu sessions, in cold, wet, windy winter weather. Between runs he records video diaries sharing one of twelve things he is grateful for per session, ranging from his Russian childhood and family to friendship, jiu-jitsu, books, artificial intelligence, and his podcast supporters. He documents the physical toll (shin splints, soreness, overeating) and especially the mental struggle, framing the test as one of mind over body. He finishes all 48 miles, reflecting that taking one step at a time lets you accomplish a lot.

Recommended on this episode

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Animal Farm

George Orwell

“one of my favorite books”
“Hemingway George Orwell Animal Farm is one of my favorite books I don't know why just love it for me”— Lex Fridman

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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The Glass Bead Game

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“with Herman has the glass be game Siddartha Damian Steppenwolf like all of these books I actually I guess I could say it dated them”— Lex Fridman
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Siddhartha

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“with Herman has the glass be game Siddartha Damian Steppenwolf like all of these books I actually I guess I could say it dated them”— Lex Fridman
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Demian

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“with Herman has the glass be game Siddartha Damian Steppenwolf like all of these books I actually I guess I could say it dated them”— Lex Fridman
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Steppenwolf

Hermann Hesse

“with Herman has the glass be game Siddartha Damian Steppenwolf like all of these books I actually I guess I could say it dated them”— Lex Fridman
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The Denial of Death

Ernest Becker

“speaking of which Ernest Becker denial of death so the more modern philosophers and thinkers a psychologist nonfiction and fiction”— Lex Fridman
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Foundation series

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“certainly the foundation series I need to read Snow Crash dune all of these books I need to read”— Lex Fridman
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Snow Crash

Neal Stephenson

“certainly the foundation series I need to read Snow Crash dune all of these books I need to read”— Lex Fridman
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Dune

Frank Herbert

“certainly the foundation series I need to read Snow Crash dune all of these books I need to read”— Lex Fridman

Big reveals from this episode

  • Lex admits he usually tests himself only intellectually, not physically, and wants to see if he's 'still a tough guy.'
  • He confesses that filming the diary entries is the hardest part, harder than the running, because of facing the camera in a fragile state.
  • He reveals he first took on podcast sponsors because he 'literally needed money to afford food and shelter.'
  • He says he probably gained weight during the challenge from overeating and constant coffee, and doesn't care how much he weighs.
  • Don Knuth offered him hot dogs after their conversation, which Lex says made him feel he 'could die happy now.'
  • He completes the full 48 miles, calling it probably the hardest thing he's ever done physically.
  • He thanks David Goggins directly for the challenge, which he discovered on Instagram.

Worth remembering

  • The challenge is 12 sessions of 4 miles every 4 hours over 48 hours, totaling 48 miles.
  • Lex eats mostly meat and one large meal a day, which made running on a full stomach feel heavy.
  • He kept a deliberately slow 9-minute-mile pace to avoid aggravating injuries.
  • Lex reads slowly, spending months on a single book and treating each like a relationship or 'girlfriend for a few months.'
  • He never got into science fiction as a kid, seeing fantasy worlds as 'unneeded spice' on an already fascinating reality.
  • His podcast strategy is 'asking silly profound questions of the busiest engineers in the world,' including Elon Musk twice.
  • He credits Joe Rogan with proving the appetite for long-form two-to-four-hour conversations.
  • He treats lingering shin splints and hamstring soreness as 'a little reminder that I'm still alive.'
  • His core lesson: focusing only on the present moment and the next step lets you endure far more than planning ahead.