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Tim Ferriss · 2024-11-20

Q&A with Tim Ferriss — How to Live with Urgency

Tim Ferriss answers a small group's questions on parenthood, identity diversification, joy, grief, AI-proofing careers, and living with less urgency.

Q&A with Tim Ferriss — How to Live with Urgency
The guest

Tim Ferriss: Author of The 4-Hour Workweek and The 4-Hour Body, host of The Tim Ferriss Show podcast (10+ years), early-stage investor, and creator of the Cockpunch NFT/fantasy project that funded his science nonprofit.

What this episode covers

In an intimate solo Q&A with a small group, Tim Ferriss reflects on the biggest mind-shifts and projects of his recent sabbatical. He explains why he believes constant motion is the enemy of 'oblique thinking,' why he's deliberately diversifying his identity into games, comics, animation, and a serially self-published book, and how he reverse-engineers joy by returning to basics like morning exercise, archery, and time with close friends. He shares how he has 'softened' over five years after watching wealthy friends remain dissatisfied, losing many friends, and working to metabolize childhood abuse through awareness practices. He closes with practical frameworks for grief, longevity (subtract, don't add), keeping questions fresh with AI, and using fear-setting to choose an AI-resistant career.

Recommended on this episode

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The DC Comics Guide to Writing Comics

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“this is a great book by the way ... this is actually a great great book”
“this is a great book by the way this is the DC Comics guide to writing Comics by Dennis O'Neal with an introduction by Stan Le this is actually a great great book”— Tim Ferriss
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Masterpieces of Fantasy Art

“lots of amazing artwork in this one”
“stuff like this you know masterpieces of fantasy art this is fretta on the cover lots of amazing artwork in this one”— Tim Ferriss
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“consistent questions that I find very helpful which you might find in some form like the 5-minute journal”
“consistent questions that I find very helpful which you might find in some form like the 5-minute journal for instance that's a those are consistent prompts that work”— Tim Ferriss
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On Grief and Grieving

Elisabeth Kubler-Ross and David Kessler

“the most common recommendation that I hear from say podcast guests so I think that could be worth checking out”
“The book on Grief and grieving is probably the most common recommendation that I hear from say podcast guests so I think that could be worth checking out”— Tim Ferriss
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The Way (meditation app)

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“it's called the way if you want to try it and I've been using it 10 minutes a day twice a day”
“now it's built out it's called the way if you want to try it and I've been using it 10 minutes a day twice a day”— Tim Ferriss
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Arcane

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“if you guys haven't seen Arcane on Netflix go watch it it's bananas”
“seeing what League of Legends and Riot games did with Arcane if you guys haven't seen Arcane on Netflix go watch it it's bananas”— Tim Ferriss

The guest's own work

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The 4-Hour Workweek

Tim Ferriss

“once the success of the 4our work week gave me a certain grace period within which I could try anything because Publishers would be like well”— Tim Ferriss
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The 4-Hour Body

Tim Ferriss

“The 4-Hour Body then proved to me I could experiment outside of the lines that would limit me to say the business category”— Tim Ferriss

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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The Creative Act: A Way of Being

Rick Rubin

“Rick rubin's the creative act I saw that copy on on Josh's Zoom so so my question is about that ... in his book The creative act Rick talks about the estatic”— Joel
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Awareness

Anthony de Mello

“trying to cultivate an awareness with different tools meditation psychedelics therapies reading books like awareness by Anthony Dello”— Tim Ferriss

Big reveals from this episode

  • His biggest recent pivot is on fatherhood: he never felt he'd be a good dad, but after years of friends having kids and telling him he'd be great, he applied his own question ('has anyone less capable figured this out?') and changed his mind.
  • His planning horizon is only 6-12 months because if you can hit a long-term plan point-by-point it's too far within your comfort zone; doing well short-term opens unforeseeable doors.
  • He champions 'identity diversification', each time you try something outside your current identity, it buys permission to keep doing so and opens new realms of possibility.
  • A core belief driving his sabbatical: constant productivity is the enemy of oblique thinking, and distance (not stillness) is necessary to make highly leveraged decisions and be a 'category of one.'
  • He softened after seeing dozens of materially successful friends still dissatisfied like 'a Hungry Ghost,' realizing success doesn't resolve most issues the way his subconscious assumed.
  • He believes giving kids more than ~10-20 million dollars can seriously screw them up, past a certain point, 'more is a lot less.'
  • His 10-year through-line is cultivating awareness to self-regulate a hypervigilant nervous system; he argues physiology activates first, creating 'a state in search of a story.'
  • He recommends his fear-setting exercise for career paralysis, noting very few moves are fatal and the 'worst case' is rarely as bad as imagined.

Worth remembering

  • Cockpunch, his NFT/fantasy project, raised $2 million, all proceeds went to his Saisei Foundation to fund early-stage science.
  • He visited New York Comic Con for the first time and was stunned by its scale; he showed comic illustrations he made back in 1995-96 and once wanted to be a comic book penciler.
  • He defines joy as 'the forgetting of the self,' whereas the quest for happiness can become an obsessive focus on the self.
  • To keep interview questions fresh, he prompts ChatGPT to generate questions as if James Lipton, Terry Gross, Charlie Rose, or Lex Fridman were interviewing the guest.
  • For longevity he says he doesn't track protocols and recommends just following Peter Attia, whom he's known since 2009 and trusts because Attia turns down lucrative promotional deals.
  • His longevity frame is subtractive, not 'what can I do to live longer' but 'what can I subtract,' like avoiding heating food in plastic (phthalates) and using good water filtration.
  • He cites the metaphor of writing a novel being like driving across the country at night with headlights, you only need to see far enough ahead to navigate.
  • The core relationship in his 'Legends of Varata' world is a father-son dynamic (Tyroon and his father); he says with $100 million he knows exactly the animated film he'd make.
  • He's been using a Zen meditation app called 'The Way,' built by Henry Shukman, twice a day for 10 minutes, and invested in it early.
  • He points to the free fear-setting resources on tim.blog, both his TED Talk and the text from The 4-Hour Workweek.