Norman Ohler reveals how methamphetamine fueled Nazi Blitzkrieg and how Hitler's opioid addiction warped his wartime decisions.

Norman Ohler: German novelist and non-fiction author of Blitzed, Tripped, and The Bohemians. He researches the role of drugs in history using primary archival sources and is working on a new book, Stoned Sapiens, about human civilization through the lens of drugs.
Norman Ohler explains how methamphetamine (marketed as Pervitin) became a mass-issued performance drug for the Wehrmacht, enabling the speed of the 1940 Blitzkrieg through the Ardennes. He traces Hitler's transformation from a teetotaling, anti-drug figurehead into a polytoxicomanic patient of his personal physician Dr. Theodor Morell, who injected him with vitamins, opioids like Eukodal, and later cocaine. Ohler argues drugs help explain Hitler's degeneration as a leader after Dunkirk while stressing he never argues monocausally or excuses Nazi crimes. The conversation also covers the wartime German resistance group around Harro Schulze-Boysen and Libertas, the LSD-Nazi-CIA-MKUltra pipeline, and Ohler's broader thesis that psychoactive substances shaped human consciousness, religion, and civilization itself.
Billy Wilder
“There's a movie by Billy Wilder called 1, 2, 3, a very good movie, and he shows... the American executive”— Norman Ohler
Oliver Hirschbiegel
“one of my favorite movies, probably Downfall, which is Hitler in the bunker”— Lex Fridman
Terry Gilliam
“some of the greatest movies... I mean, like, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.”— Lex Fridman
Yuval Noah Harari
“Like Sapiens by Harari, which is a great book, he also misses that.”— Norman Ohler
Fyodor Dostoevsky
“Which one's your favorite? - Brothers Karamazov. Well, I read in both Russian and English.”— Lex Fridman
Chuck Palahniuk
“he's a great writer. Fight Club influenced me quite a bit. I think the novel is even better, maybe, than the movie.”— Norman Ohler
James Joyce
“it's Ulysses by James Joyce. Ulysses is good, but only when you're in your early 20s, living in New York”— Norman Ohler
Albert Camus
“the most influential book, maybe, is The Stranger by Camus. Because I like the language so much”— Norman Ohler
Thomas Pynchon
“Thomas Pynchon, who wrote Gravity's Rainbow, which I think is one of the best novels of the 20th century... I think it's an absolute masterpiece.”— Norman Ohler
Norman Ohler
“The following is a conversation with Norman Ohler, author of Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich.”— Lex Fridman
Norman Ohler
“He also wrote Tripped: Nazi Germany, the CIA, and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age.”— Lex Fridman
Norman Ohler
“he's now working on a new book with the possible title of Stoned Sapiens, great title, looking at the history of human civilization through the lens of drugs”— Lex Fridman
Norman Ohler
“that's why I wrote the book, The Bohemians, because there were a few people in Berlin that didn't react this way”— Norman Ohler
Jack Kerouac
“Kerouac is pretty cool. But he's an amphetamine writer. On the Road was apparently written in two weeks on amphetamines. And, but it's good.”— Norman Ohler
Adolf Hitler
“Also, they were sentenced to prison, and Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in prison.”— Norman Ohler
George Orwell
“it's like in Animal Farm when the pigs discover alcohol. Animal Farm by George Orwell. There's no evidence that they drank.”— Norman Ohler
Viktor Frankl
“one of the things you get from books like Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl is that in the concentration camp actually, the slightest good things are so rich”— Lex Fridman
Ken Kesey
“on LSD, he basically had the idea to write One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. He understood that these people maybe are not crazy.”— Norman Ohler
Fyodor Dostoevsky
“for the longest time, it was The Idiot. Until... It's a complicated philosophical issue.”— Lex Fridman
Fyodor Dostoevsky
“I've recently been rereading all of Dostoevsky. So, going through Notes on the Underground, The Idiot, Crime and Punishment, The Brothers Karamazov.”— Lex Fridman
Fyodor Dostoevsky
“going through Notes on the Underground, The Idiot, Crime and Punishment, The Brothers Karamazov”— Lex Fridman
Malcolm Lowry
“it also depends on the person. Like, Malcolm Lowry, Under the Volcano, he was drinking a lot.”— Norman Ohler
Friedrich Nietzsche
“When Nietzsche wrote Zarathustra and... - You can sense his presence a little bit?”— Norman Ohler