Harvard happiness professor Arthur Brooks explains why satisfaction comes from wanting less, and how unhappiness is essential to a fully lived life.

Arthur C. Brooks: Harvard professor, social scientist, and happiness expert; author of From Strength to Strength and co-author with Oprah Winfrey of Build the Life You Want; writes a weekly column in The Atlantic and runs Harvard's Leadership and Happiness Lab.
Tim Ferriss interviews Arthur C. Brooks on the science and practice of getting happier. Brooks lays out his core model that satisfaction equals haves divided by wants, arguing that lasting happiness comes from wanting less rather than having more, and walks through tools like the reverse bucket list and the Maranasati death meditation. He breaks happiness into three 'macronutrients', enjoyment, satisfaction, and meaning, and details Aquinas's four idols (money, power, pleasure, fame) that substitute for the divine. Brooks and Ferriss also explore religious conviction, dating and companionate love, friendship and male loneliness, radical honesty, and how suffering is integral to a meaningful life. Brooks shares personal stories including his Catholic conversion in Mexico, courting his wife in Barcelona, and his son Carlos's path to the Marine Corps.
Arthur C. Brooks
“I have read your prior work, From Strength to Strength, excellent book recommended to me by Peter Attia.”— Tim Ferriss
Sal Di Stefano
“Mind Pump, it's a fitness and culture podcast and I've listened to it for years and years and he taught me how to do it.”— Arthur Brooks
“Three Identical Strangers show up, it turns out. That's a great documentary. Tim Ferriss: It is great.”— Arthur Brooks
Tim Urban
“I owe Tim Urban a huge thank you for his article "The Tail End." I ended up booking most years... a family trip once a year”— Tim Ferriss
Fyodor Dostoevsky
“Go get The Brothers K. Why? Because it's a deeply awe-inspiring experience about the human condition and the absurdity of it. It's beautiful.”— Arthur Brooks
Marcus Aurelius
“Get the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, who, by the way, a world historical figure because he was a Roman emperor.”— Arthur Brooks
Andrew Solomon
“Andrew Solomon, who wrote The Noonday Demon... It's the best book I've ever read about anxiety and depression. Andrew Solomon's a phenomenal writer.”— Arthur Brooks
Arthur C. Brooks and Oprah Winfrey
“The title now is How to Build the Life You Want: The Art and Science of Getting Happier.”— Arthur Brooks
Tim Ferriss
“I mean extremely specific, as specific as the stuff in The 4-Hour Body specific.”— Arthur Brooks
Thich Nhat Hanh
“he starts off The Miracle of Mindfulness, that famous book, big bestseller with this simple description of washing the dishes.”— Arthur Brooks
John J. Ratey
“there's a book called Spark, which also goes into a lot of BDNF, and a lot of the circuitry and biochemical reasons for exercise for this explicit purpose.”— Tim Ferriss
Thomas Aquinas
“his magisterial work was the Summa Theologiae, which is just... it's a master class in the way that we should be thinking about big topics today.”— Arthur Brooks
Dan Carlin
“it could take the form of listening to, say, Hardcore History and listening to "Kings of Kings," the Assyrians, and really widening the aperture of your historic lens”— Tim Ferriss
“it's like watching the same episode every single night of Better Call Saul for the rest of your life.”— Arthur Brooks
“It's like having the seagulls from Finding Nemo in your head. Mine, mine, mine, mine, mine.”— Tim Ferriss
Friedrich Nietzsche
“The Gay Science, which is one of his most famous texts where he said, "God is dead and we killed him."”— Arthur Brooks
Clif Bar & Company
“It's a philosophical Clif bar. Sorry, people love those. Not to cast aspersions, my friends at Clif”— Arthur Brooks