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Tim Ferriss · 2024-04-17

The Amazing and Brutal Results of Zero Lies for 365 Days — Martha Beck

Martha Beck on tracking joy in the body, her year of zero lies, and how curiosity defeats anxiety.

The Amazing and Brutal Results of Zero Lies for 365 Days — Martha Beck
The guest

Martha Beck: Harvard-trained sociologist, life coach, and bestselling author (The Way of Integrity); ex-Mormon known for radical honesty and somatic, joy-based coaching.

What this episode covers

Tim Ferriss talks with Martha Beck about how she helps people get off what their mutual friend Boyd Varty calls 'the path of not here' by tracking joy in the body the way a ranger tracks an animal. Beck recounts the year at age 29 when she vowed to tell no lies, which cost her family, marriage, religion, and career but left only the path of joy. She describes a near-death-style 'white light' experience during emergency surgery, her departure from Mormonism, and her belief that consciousness is the primary reality. The conversation digs into practical tools: an 'integrity cleanse,' a five-senses exercise to jump from the analytical left hemisphere into the right, Byron Katie's The Work and its 'turnarounds,' and Internal Family Systems parts work. Beck closes on her thesis that the opposite of anxiety is not calm but creativity, and that accepting rather than rejecting anxious parts is the real breakthrough.

Recommended on this episode

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The Lion Tracker's Guide to Life

Boyd Varty

“beautiful little book, which I've read multiple times”
“He's the author of The Lion Tracker's Guide to Life... beautiful little book, which I've read multiple times. And he is one hell of a guy.”— Tim Ferriss
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Tao Te Ching (Stephen Mitchell translation)

Stephen Mitchell

“it was like my nervous system caught fire when I read that version”
“I read Stephen's version of the Tao Te Ching right around the time I had the white light experience... it was like my nervous system caught fire when I read that version.”— Martha Beck
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Self-Therapy

Jay Earley

“tells it with little illustrations and everything to tell you how to use it”
“There are books out there, one is called Self-Therapy by Jay Earley that tells it with little illustrations and everything to tell you how to use it.”— Martha Beck
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Radical Acceptance

Tara Brach

“Yeah, that's a great book”
“it's time for me to go back and reread Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach, probably. Martha Beck: Yeah, that's a great book.”— Martha Beck
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Trickster Makes This World

Lewis Hyde

“It's fascinating. Really fun book if people want to get into trickster mythology”
“There is a really fun book... Trickster Makes This World by Lewis Hyde... It's fascinating. Really fun book if people want to get into trickster mythology.”— Tim Ferriss
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Make Good Art (commencement speech)

Neil Gaiman

“unbelievably good, and watch the actual delivery”
“Make Good Art, a commencement speech by Neil Gaiman is unbelievably good, and watch the actual delivery. Watch the video”— Tim Ferriss
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I Think You're Fat (Esquire article)

A.J. Jacobs

“if people want to read something very funny”
“if people want to read something very funny, there's an article, it's an old article from Esquire called I Think You're Fat by a friend of mine, A.J. Jacobs.”— Tim Ferriss

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

The 4-Hour Workweek

Tim Ferriss

“I gave your 4-Hour Workweek to my then-teenage children. I said, I want you to learn the way this man thinks.”— Martha Beck
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The 4-Hour Chef

Tim Ferriss

“I remember hearing when I was working on The 4-Hour Chef, someone who was involved in one of these very, very well-known schools”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guest

The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self

Martha Beck

“Your recent book is The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, New York Times bestseller, Oprah's Book Club selection.”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life's Purpose

Martha Beck

“Your upcoming book is Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life's Purpose, that is forthcoming.”— Tim Ferriss

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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The Divine Comedy

Dante Alighieri

“And I wrote a whole book on this based on The Divine Comedy because Dante starts that book just saying, In the middle of my life”— Martha Beck
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Loving What Is

Byron Katie

“I saw this book by a woman named Byron Katie, and it said, With a forward by Stephen Mitchell... So I bought the book, got on a plane, read the book.”— Martha Beck
BookReferencedISBN verified

The Work of Byron Katie

Byron Katie

“they can find The Work by Byron Katie online... It's called The Work of Byron Katie. And you can go online and download free things.”— Tim Ferriss
BookReferencedISBN verified

Eat, Pray, Love

Elizabeth Gilbert

“well, Liz said it, Eat, pray, love. Now, it is time for something that is beautiful to change into something else that is beautiful.”— Martha Beck
BookReferencedISBN verified

Faust

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“All I can think about is Faust now and how he talks about the bargain with The Devil. I think we all make a bargain with The Devil metaphorically”— Martha Beck
MediaReferenced

Eddie Izzard comedy routines

Eddie Izzard

“I made them lie down on the living room floor and watch Eddie Izzard routines on TV while I brought them ice cream for about three days.”— Martha Beck
MediaReferenced

Jill Bolte Taylor's TED Talk (My Stroke of Insight)

Jill Bolte Taylor

“the woman who had the left hemisphere stroke when she was a Harvard neuroanatomist. It was the first TED Talk to go viral”— Martha Beck
MediaReferenced

The Great British Baking Show

“You would probably go on The Great British Baking Show and outbake everyone in Britain.”— Martha Beck

Big reveals from this episode

  • A study compared therapy, meds, and a group that only eliminated 'I can't' and 'I have to' (replacing them with 'I choose to/not to'); the language-only group came out of depression faster than all others.
  • At 29 Beck pledged to tell no lies for a year; it cost her family, religion, marriage, home, career, and entire industry, but revealed that most of her lies were about how she felt.
  • During emergency surgery for internal bleeding from old trauma, Beck reports leaving her body, seeing a white light of total joy, and the anesthesiologist independently hearing a voice telling him not to increase her anesthesia.
  • Beck argues consciousness is the primary reality of the universe and embraces the Copenhagen interpretation, believing observation makes the merely energetic appear physical.
  • On stage Beck asks audiences if they're comfortable; they insist yes, then admit they'd never sit that way alone at home, proving they 'repeatedly lied' because their bodies tell the truth.
  • Beck's central thesis: the opposite of anxiety isn't calm, it's creativity; stress kills creativity (five-year-olds beat MBAs at the spaghetti-marshmallow tower), and right-brain creative activity toggles off the anxiety machinery.
  • Beck's insomnia/anxiety breakthrough: instead of pushing the anxious part away (which makes it panic and escalate), she invites it to 'stay', 'Come sit by the fire with me', accepting it fully.

Worth remembering

  • Beck met Boyd Varty when a substitute game ranger showed up at Londolozi during her South Africa book tour; she later sobbed on the plane reading his father's memoir about Boyd waking with a gun barrel in his mouth.
  • The cognitive mind processes about 40 bits of information per second while the whole body's nervous system processes about 11 million bits per second, 'the body is smarter than the mind.'
  • As a teenager at Harvard Beck ran a hundred miles a week while eating under a thousand calories a day, then developed multiple autoimmune diseases.
  • Beck's father was the foremost apologist of Mormonism; the church named feminists, intellectuals, and gay people as the three greatest threats, and she turned out to be all three.
  • In Asian philosophy you're born perfect and accrue illusions; the Tao Te Ching says in pursuit of knowledge something is added daily, in pursuit of the Tao something is dropped daily.
  • Steven Hayes, founder of ACT therapy, concluded humans uniquely commit suicide because of language, we can build a verbal reality so terrifying that an unknown future feels worse than death.
  • Byron Katie's The Work uses four questions; Beck believes the direct verbal opposite of your worst fear is your next step toward enlightenment (her 'I am going to happen to something terrible' turnaround).
  • Beck befriended Jill Bolte Taylor, the neuroanatomist whose left-hemisphere stroke (the first viral TED Talk) left her in eight years of rebuilding while experiencing right-hemisphere bliss and no barriers between objects.
  • Beck says a rescued adult cheetah licked her arm with its raspy tongue, taking off a layer of skin and leaving a scar for months; she describes cheetahs as having 'dog energy with a ton of sugar.'
  • Beck spent January 2023 doing only right-brain activities (drawing, painting) in pandemic lockdown and now wakes between 4 and 6 a.m. to paint until 11.