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Tim Ferriss · 2025-01-02

The Random Show — 2025 Predictions (AI, Aliens, BTC, and More), New Year’s Resolutions, and More

Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose riff on 2025 predictions, longevity training, crypto, AI devices, meditation, ethical hunting, and aliens.

The Random Show — 2025 Predictions (AI, Aliens, BTC, and More), New Year’s Resolutions, and More
The guest

Kevin Rose: Co-host of The Random Show, general partner at True Ventures, longtime tech investor and entrepreneur

What this episode covers

In this year-end Random Show, Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose trade New Year's resolutions and 2025 predictions ranging from Bitcoin and nuclear power to AI-native mobile devices. Tim goes deep on his shift to functional, spinal-engine strength training, his minimalist one-set-to-failure protocol, and recovery experiments including stem cells and low-intensity ultrasound. Kevin lays out a simplified investing approach (VTI, Bitcoin at 10% of net worth, a nuclear ETF) and predicts crypto, AI consolidation, and OpenAI hardware. Tim shares his involvement with Maui Nui Venison and an ethical night-harvest, plus how twice-daily 10-minute meditation via The Way app matched the anti-anxiety benefits of expensive accelerated TMS. They close with an extended, skeptical-but-curious conversation on UFOs/UAPs and book recommendations.

Recommended on this episode

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Consensus (consensus.app)

Consensus

“it's actually very helpful to get an initial indication”
“consensus.app, which uses AI to assess published literature from reputable journals to determine if something is a thumbs up”— Tim Ferriss
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Monarch

Monarch Money

“It's great”
“Monarch is now just it ties together all my accounts in a view that I think is more data rich especially on the budgeting side”— Kevin Rose
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Projection Lab

ProjectionLab

“I think that's probably the best app out there”
“Projection Lab is good at kind of looking where you're spending in terms of how soon can I retire. I think that's probably the best app out there”— Kevin Rose
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Copilot

Copilot Money

“Copilot has always been my favorite on mobile”
“Copilot has always been my favorite on mobile, but Monarch is now just it ties together all my accounts”— Kevin Rose
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Kubera

Kubera

“I love Kubera. I think it's it's really high-quality software”
“Kubera is my overview app that I think is the best for like tracking all kind of your your larger investments. I love Kubera”— Kevin Rose
ProductRecommended

VTI (Vanguard Total Stock Market ETF)

Vanguard

“Like I I love that”
“VTI because it gives you global exposure. Like I I love that. I get the total stock market index there. It's Vanguard. It's low cost”— Kevin Rose
MediaRecommended

Moment of Contact

Netflix

“Dude, it's worth it. It's worth it. You got to see this”
“Moment of Contact, it's a Netflix documentary about this 1996 crash in Brazil. Dude, it's worth it. It's worth it”— Kevin Rose
ProductRecommended

Maui Nui Venison Pepper 10 sticks

Maui Nui Venison

“It is the most nutrient-dense red meat that you can get; I've been consuming two or three of these a day”
“Axis deer venison sticks, Maui Nui venison. It's the most nutrient-dense red meat that you can get. I've been consuming two or three of these a day”— Tim Ferriss
ProductRecommended

David protein bars

David

“these David bars have incredible protein per calorie ratios; this is basically the kit”
“these David bars have incredible protein per calorie ratios. 28 g protein, 150 calories. When I am traveling, this is basically the kit”— Tim Ferriss
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Nooz sticks

Nooz

“I love my Nooz as well; I do love their product”
“I love my Nooz as well. I just ordered the sticks that the 10 sticks. Those are going to be good. I do love their product”— Kevin Rose
ProductRecommended

The Way (meditation app)

The Way / Henry Shukman

“Doing those 10 minutes twice a day has been incredible; Henry Shukman has the most relaxing voice you'll ever hear”
“The Way, Henry Shukman, your man. Doing those 10 minutes twice a day has been incredible. The Way app.com is the app”— Tim Ferriss
MediaRecommended

The Present Moment: A Retreat on the Practice of Mindfulness

Thich Nhat Hanh

“it's quite mesmerizing; I'll give one more wreck”
“It's called The Present Moment, a retreat on the practice of mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh. it's quite mesmerizing”— Tim Ferriss
BookRecommended

After: A Doctor Explores What Near-Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond

Bruce Greyson, MD

“I can't put it down. Like it's so good”
“Let me give one book recommendation. By Bruce Greyson, MD. It's called After. I just like I can't put it down. Like it's so good”— Kevin Rose

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

The 4-Hour Body

Tim Ferriss

“in the case of say the 4-Hour Body, the Occam's protocol and a handful of compound movements still does the trick”— Tim Ferriss

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

ProductReferenced

Adobe Lightroom

Adobe

“they had Adobe Lightroom on there as winning the Apple App Store 2024 winner, Mac app”— Kevin Rose
ProductReferenced

ChatGPT

OpenAI

“I've used chat GPT and Claude like 10 to 15 times today with my team. I'm doing a company offsite”— Tim Ferriss
ProductReferenced

Claude

Anthropic

“I've used chat GPT and Claude like 10 to 15 times today with my team. I'm doing a company offsite”— Tim Ferriss
BookReferencedISBN verified

The Spinal Engine

Serge Gracovetsky

“what he calls and others have called the spinal engine. And there's a book actually by that title, the spinal engine”— Tim Ferriss
ProductReferenced

Concept2 rower

Concept2

“His endurance on sec on a rower like a concept two is unbelievable. Like the wattage that he can sustain”— Tim Ferriss
ProductReferenced

Repatha

Amgen

“when I first started taking Repatha as a as an alternative to cholesterol meds. And now Amazon has it for 500”— Kevin Rose
ProductReferenced

NLR (VanEck Uranium and Nuclear ETF)

VanEck

“the one I I look at is the only one I could really was NLR, which is the VanEck ETF Trust Uranium and Nuclear Basket of stocks”— Kevin Rose
ProductReferenced

Ray-Ban Meta smart glasses

Meta

“they have these Ray-Ban glasses that it's the first time I've seen a Meta product where I've said, Okay, you're starting to get a little”— Kevin Rose
ProductReferenced

Enigma (Enigma Labs UAP app)

Enigma Labs

“there is an app called Enigma, which runs machine learning on UAP sightings. So, if people want to check that out, it's pretty interesting”— Kevin Rose
ProductReferenced

MagVenture TMS device

MagVenture

“That was with a MagVenture device, which I think is quite interesting. Brain sway is another one that's very interesting”— Tim Ferriss
ProductReferenced

Brainsway TMS device

Brainsway

“Brain sway is another one that's very interesting and works well for a lot of other people”— Tim Ferriss
ProductReferenced

Coinbase

Coinbase

“Coinbase has a feature called custody where you can't withdraw for like 3 days. I like doing it”— Kevin Rose

Big reveals from this episode

  • Kevin moved his crypto allocation to 10% of net worth (up from 4-5%), buying more Bitcoin after a gut feeling Trump would win, and predicts Bitcoin hits $250K+ within two years as the US government adds it to reserves.
  • Tim revealed full-leg X-rays confirmed his right leg is 0.8-1.1 cm longer, which introduced rotational force in back squats and turned mild back pain into two years of acute pain.
  • Tim did an experimental stem cell (MSC) injection into the SI joint and around the iliolumbar ligament as part of a clinical trial and felt relief within a day.
  • Tim disclosed his 5-day accelerated TMS had the greatest durable impact on his anxiety ever, but 2-day and 3-day boosters did nothing, costing wasted time and money.
  • Twice-daily 10-minute meditation with The Way app got Tim to a similar lowered-anxiety level as the $30K-50K experimental TMS therapy.
  • Maui Nui Venison restructured its business model after the 2023 wildfires and has donated more than 120,000 lbs of venison to the community.
  • Kevin predicts Microsoft will release an Android-based phone bundling Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook) plus ChatGPT integration.
  • Tim shared his 'New Year's reservations' practice (5+ years running): blocking calendar time for extended trips with close friends so relationships don't atrophy.

Worth remembering

  • Kevin predicts OpenAI launches a mobile device or smart headphones, possibly designed with Jony Ive, to get AI at the device level.
  • Kevin holds NLR, the VanEck Uranium and Nuclear ETF, as a long-term bet that nuclear outperforms the S&P over the next decade due to AI data-center power demand.
  • Maui Nui's axis deer were introduced to Hawaii from India by King Kamehameha; with no natural predators, tens of thousands now ravage the landscape and erode coral reefs.
  • Tim's one-set-to-failure protocol uses a super-slow 5-seconds-up/5-seconds-down cadence for 6-10 reps, with a full workout under 20 minutes.
  • Tim is testing LICUS (low-intensity continuous ultrasound) electrode patches for shoulder tendinitis, costing roughly $10K for two months of patches.
  • Tim returned to the 'Reversing Permanent Injuries' chapter of The 4-Hour Body, using Gray Cook exercises like the chop-and-lift and Turkish get-up.
  • Tim completed a 'NobNaw' challenge: 30 days of no booze, no masturbating, plus no coffee, calling it a fantastic dopamine reset.
  • Tim eats two to three Maui Nui Pepper 10 venison sticks daily (10% liver and heart), plus David protein bars (28g protein, 150 calories) when traveling.
  • Tim recommends the book 'After' by Bruce Greyson, MD on near-death experiences, and had Greyson on his podcast a few months prior.
  • Tim cited the Enigma app (enigma.labs.io), which runs machine learning on UAP sightings, amid the New Jersey drone sighting spike.