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Lex Fridman · 2021-01-29

Tim Dillon: Comedy, Power, Conspiracy Theories, and Freedom | Lex Fridman Podcast #156

Tim Dillon and Lex Fridman riff on comedy, deplatforming, conspiracy theories, power, and why funny might be what saves us.

Tim Dillon: Comedy, Power, Conspiracy Theories, and Freedom | Lex Fridman Podcast #156
The guest

Tim Dillon: Tim Dillon is a stand-up comedian and host of The Tim Dillon Show, known for fearless, absurdist humor that challenges social and political norms.

What this episode covers

Comedian Tim Dillon joins Lex Fridman for a wide-ranging, freewheeling conversation about comedy, power, and conspiracy. They debate the dangers of deplatforming and algorithmic gatekeeping after Amazon removed Parler and platforms banned Trump and Alex Jones, arguing for due process over unilateral bans. Dillon connects rising political anger and extremism to powerlessness, lack of healthcare, and economic precarity, while dissecting Epstein, the deep state, and QAnon. The two also explore the nature and limits of comedy, fame's hidden sadness, Dillon's coming out and his mother's schizophrenia, and end on the idea that humor is a form of love.

Recommended on this episode

BookRecommendedISBN verified

On the Road

Jack Kerouac

“one of my favorite books”
“the mad ones in his book on the road that is one of my favorite books he wrote the only people for me are the mad ones”— Lex Fridman
MediaRecommended

Lord of War

“it's a good movie it's a great movie”
“the movie where nicholas cage sold weapons it was called lord of war it's a little better than limitless anyway it's a good movie”— guest
BookRecommended

Drinking: A Love Story

Caroline Knapp

“a really good book”
“carolyn knapp who wrote a book called drinking a love story which is a really good book about not drinking”— guest

The guest's own work

ProductBy the guest

Tim Dillon Enron logo sweatshirt

Tim Dillon

“we do a fake business sweatshirt with the enron logo fake business cause i like i do fake business all the time”— guest
MediaBy the guest

The Tim Dillon Show

Tim Dillon

“like even my podcast which is people really like it thank god and i i love doing it the tim dillon show”— guest

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

MediaReferenced

Louie

Louis C.K.

“there's a there's a show called louie with lucy canada i'm aware of that there's this moment i think where an old guy's talking to louie”— Lex Fridman
MediaReferenced

The Naked Gun

“he's like an elder statesman because i remember him from the naked gun and i choose to forgive him”— guest
ProductReferenced

Tesla

Tesla

“what he's doing with tesla you know my producer is a tesla and he never shuts up about it most people that have tesla's never shut up about them”— guest
MediaReferenced

Limitless

“i think it's from the movie limitless i'm like an idiot but anyway thanks for having me on”— guest

Big reveals from this episode

  • Dillon says he would replace friends and family with robots immediately, joking he'd host Thanksgiving with four robots.
  • Dillon and Lex call Amazon pulling Parler off AWS the most clearly troubling moment, infrastructure putting its finger on the scale.
  • Dillon argues deplatforming Alex Jones across all platforms plus banks refusing him accounts is terrifying and needs due process.
  • Dillon makes a provocative case for forgiving O.J. Simpson, citing his stable Twitter presence as a model of redemption.
  • Dillon flatly states he believes Epstein was killed and was running an intelligence honeypot tied to Mossad, MI6, and CIA.
  • Dillon's creative test for a bit: 'is it funny with the sound off?'
  • Dillon opens up about his mother's schizophrenia and making peace with her death before she died.
  • Dillon credits his mother for letting him be a performer at age six, calling it the best thing a parent can do.

Worth remembering

  • Dillon's episode 'Knife Fight in Malibu' got demonetized because the algorithm flagged the violent-sounding title.
  • Most of YouTube's algorithm decisions are based on the title, with the description a small contribution.
  • Dillon says he got banned from Airbnb after comedically threatening to kill the people who banned him.
  • Dillon notes the two political parties have literally flipped on war, with Democrats now more hawkish than Republicans.
  • Dillon: comedians can be 'funny and right' or 'funny and wrong,' but funny has to come first.
  • Dillon calls Lord of War a great movie and corrects himself that the 'getting what you want' quote is from it, not Limitless.
  • Dillon admits he was late to podcasting, regretting not building online infrastructure sooner.
  • Dillon says he's done keto and fasting for 15 years, eating once or twice a day with no sugar, bread, or pasta.
  • Dillon's meaning-of-life answer: at the end, just ask whether it was time well spent.
  • Dillon ties humor to love, citing Caroline Knapp's book Drinking: A Love Story.