Free-solo legend Alex Honnold tells Andrew Huberman how relentless small daily goals, not raw fearlessness, build seemingly impossible achievements.

Alex Honnold: Professional rock climber best known for free soloing El Capitan in Yosemite (no ropes), the subject of the Oscar-winning documentary 'Free Solo'. Widely regarded as one of the most accomplished and innovative athletes in history.
Andrew Huberman and Alex Honnold discuss how to set and achieve massive goals through consistent, incremental daily effort rather than relying on innate talent or fearlessness. Honnold explains his process of memorizing climbs, the misperception of risk in free soloing (most elite soloists die doing other activities, not on cutting-edge climbs), and how confronting mortality after his father's early death galvanized his life. The conversation covers the longevity and balance climbing offers as a sport, the role of social media and disconnecting to actually get good at something, and parenting toward passion. It closes with a detailed exchange on strength training, where Huberman shares Pavel Tsatsouline's not-to-failure method, plus running, recovery, posture, and cardio for climbers.
Jimmy Chin and Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi
“It was also, of course, the topic and focus of the incredible movie "Free Solo," which if you haven't seen, you absolutely should watch.”— Andrew Huberman
Andre Agassi
“I read Andre Agassi's book, "Open," which is basically a story of his dad pushing him to play a game he did not want to play.”— Andrew Huberman
Amorpho
“I have no sponsorship relationship with them, Amorpho makes these vests... it's got little ball bearings in it.”— Andrew Huberman
Jimmy Chin and Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi
“I saw the movie "Meru." That was pretty intense.”— Andrew Huberman
Emily Harrington (subject)
“And the film's called "Girl Climber." I supported her on each of her attempts. It's really inspiring.”— Alex Honnold
The North Face
“we're both sponsored by The North Face now, so we're friends. We're on the same team.”— Alex Honnold