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Tim Ferriss · 2024-04-04

How to Overcome Resistance — Seth Godin

Seth Godin walks with Tim Ferriss explaining how to write short, ship daily, and beat creative resistance.

How to Overcome Resistance — Seth Godin
The guest

Seth Godin: Author of 21 international bestsellers (Purple Cow, Linchpin, The Dip, This Is Marketing), prolific daily blogger, and founder of altMBA, Squidoo, and Yoyodyne.

What this episode covers

In this walk-and-talk episode, Tim Ferriss asks Seth Godin for help reentering blogging and writing shorter, more sustainable posts. Godin reframes a blog post as a provocation or question rather than a comprehensive answer, arguing that the reader's brain should fill in the gaps the way it does between comic panels. He diagnoses Tim's tendency to add protective parentheticals as Pressfield-style resistance, and prescribes hard constraints, a recurring genre, and a distinct authorial 'character' to enable consistent shipping. Along the way Godin shares stories of working with Isaac Asimov on a VCR murder-mystery game, his philosophy of deliberately creating uncomfortable vacuums between projects, and why he writes a blog post every single day regardless of whether he publishes it.

Recommended on this episode

BookRecommendedISBN verified

Understanding Comics

Scott McCloud

“which is a must read”
“what Scott McLoud taught us about Comics Scott mccloud's book about Comics which is a must read I have read it or understanding Comics”— Seth Godin
MediaRecommended

XKCD

Randall Munroe

“the king of this is actually the magic of XKCD ... it's outstanding”
“I think the king of this is actually the magic of XKCD which is a Blog in graphic form yeah it's outstanding”— Seth Godin
ProductRecommended

Claude AI

Anthropic

“claude AI is significantly better then chat GPT at certain functions ... I use Claude AI every day”
“claw. a is significantly better then chat GPT at certain functions and I think part of it is cuz it doesn't read the web”— Seth Godin

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

Tribes

Seth Godin

“Seth's books include tribes Purple Cow lynchpin the dip and this is marketing Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Purple Cow

Seth Godin

“Seth's books include tribes Purple Cow lynchpin the dip and this is marketing Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Linchpin

Seth Godin

“Seth's books include tribes Purple Cow lynchpin the dip and this is marketing Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guestISBN verified

The Dip

Seth Godin

“Seth's books include tribes Purple Cow lynchpin the dip and this is marketing Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guestISBN verified

This Is Marketing

Seth Godin

“Seth's books include tribes Purple Cow lynchpin the dip and this is marketing Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guestISBN verified

The Song of Significance: A New Manifesto for Teams

Seth Godin

“His latest book is the song of significance a new Manifesto for teams you can find him at Seth golden.com and you can find Seth's blog at seth. blog”— Tim Ferriss

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

BookReferencedISBN verified

Dune

Frank Herbert

“people do better if they understand that they're going to see Dune not read the power broker those are different genres”— Seth Godin
BookReferencedISBN verified

The Power Broker

Robert Caro

“people do better if they understand that they're going to see Dune not read the power broker those are different genres”— Seth Godin
ProductReferenced

ChatGPT

OpenAI

“claw. a is significantly better then chat GPT at certain functions and I think part of it is cuz it doesn't read the web”— Seth Godin

Big reveals from this episode

  • Godin says when writers try to condense an idea, 'resistance kicks in' (Pressfield's resistance) and they add parentheticals to clarify, which ruins the short form.
  • A blog's power, drawn from Scott McCloud's 'Understanding Comics,' is that meaning happens between the panels, the reader's brain does the leaping and grows by figuring out the connection.
  • Godin tells Tim he is adding parentheticals 'to protect yourself', and pushes him to adopt rigid boundaries (like haiku rules) so he can declare a job done and ship it.
  • Godin's done-rule: you get points for making a post shorter, never longer; if he can't boil it down further and it isn't deceptive, it's done.
  • Godin writes as a 'character named Seth Godin,' not his authentic in-the-moment self, being parody-able is a good sign that the voice is real.
  • On choosing next chapters: 'creating a vacuum is required', he stops projects he loves to force the hard work of filling an uncomfortable void rather than coasting.
  • The biggest payoff of daily writing is quieting the noise in his head: he writes tomorrow 'because it's Friday,' not because any single post is perfect.
  • A great blog post tells people something they already sort of know, in a way they'd be grateful to forward to others.

Worth remembering

  • Seth Godin's books have been translated into 38 languages, and he has published over 8,500 daily blog posts.
  • The six-word story attributed to Hemingway, 'For sale, baby shoes, never worn', is cited as magic that can't be repeated daily.
  • Godin disabled comments on his blog because misunderstandings made him overwrite to defend posts, which killed the blog form.
  • Godin uploaded a 40-page business plan to Claude AI and in under 10 seconds got an 'MBA quality memo' nailing contradictions and errors.
  • Godin learned to write blog posts in advance from working with Isaac Asimov, and writes one every day 'because I eat lunch every day.'
  • Godin's proudest shortest post: 'You don't need more time' (assertion) followed by 'You just need to decide' (release).
  • Asimov published 400 books, invented the modern conception of the robot, and as a hands-off project partner trusted Godin completely.
  • Parker Brothers turned Clue into a VCR game that sold over a million copies at $40; Godin and Peter Adkison invented a similar VCR murder-mystery set on another planet, sold to Kodak with two thumbs up from Siskel and Ebert.
  • Squidoo, co-founded by Godin, became the 40th biggest website in the US with only eight employees.
  • Godin introduces the word 'kear' (cure), a safe haven, niche, or fortress, as the value of owning a single lane like blogging.