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Andrew Huberman · 2024-07-01

How to Improve Skin Health & Appearance

Huberman's solo deep dive on skin health: sunscreen science, collagen and niacinamide, retinoids, red light, and how diet and stress show up on your skin.

How to Improve Skin Health & Appearance
The guest

Andrew Huberman: Stanford professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology and host of the Huberman Lab podcast. This is a solo episode (no guest), drawing on his consultations with several board-certified dermatologists, including a dermatologic oncologist.

What this episode covers

Andrew Huberman covers the skin as a living organ tightly linked to the immune system, gut microbiome, and hormones. He walks through the structure of skin, then tackles the sunscreen controversy, comparing mineral (zinc oxide/titanium dioxide) versus chemical sunscreens and which are safest. He reviews evidence-backed ways to improve skin youthfulness, including hydrolyzed collagen with vitamin C, niacinamide, hyaluronic acid, retinoids, and red light phototherapy, while flagging more experimental peptides like BPC-157. He closes with nutrition, gut health, lifestyle factors (sleep, alcohol, nicotine, stress), and specific guidance for acne, rosacea, and psoriasis.

Recommended on this episode

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Fish oil (liquid form)

“I personally am a big believer in”
“I personally am a big believer in supplementing with liquid form fish oil that's what I do”— Andrew Huberman
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Dove soap (unscented bar)

Dove

“that's what's worked for me”
“I've always used unscented unfragranced Dove soap ... I have no relationship to Dove soap ... that's what's worked for me”— Andrew Huberman

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body

Andrew Huberman

“I have a new book coming out it's my very first book it's entitled protocols an operating manual for the human body”— Andrew Huberman

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Cetaphil

Cetaphil

“there are things like Cetaphil these are some brand names and there are a bunch of other more sophisticated gentle cleansers that one could use”— Andrew Huberman
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Hydrolyzed collagen peptides

“when people supplement with anywhere from 5 to 15 grams ... of hydrolized collagen per day in particular in combination with vitamin C ... can observe some visible improvements in skin composition”— Andrew Huberman
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Niacinamide (vitamin B3)

“they mentioned supplementing with niacinamide ... taken at twice per day at a dosage of 500 milligrams per dose ... can increase the production of ceramides”— Andrew Huberman
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Hyaluronic acid

“hyaluronic acid is a natural component of the skin that provides a physical substrate for holding in water so moisture within the skin”— Andrew Huberman
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Vitamin C

“that whole process can be augmented can be improved through ingestion of 500 to 1,000 milligrams of Vitamin C as well”— Andrew Huberman
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BPC-157

“one of the more common of these peptides being used nowadays is one ... called bpc157 body protection compound 157 ... I can't in good conscious recommend those products”— Andrew Huberman
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Copper (trace mineral)

“copper has been shown to play a key role in DNA repair which is a critical component of the turnover of collagen and other proteins in skin”— Andrew Huberman
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Tretinoin / Retinol (retinoids)

“things within the so-called retinoid pathway such as retinol ... Trenton Noah is the common name for it ... derivatives of vitamin A”— Andrew Huberman
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Vitamin D (supplement)

“many people nowadays supplement with vitamin D anywhere from a th000 IUS to 5,000 IUS”— Andrew Huberman
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Salicylic acid

“there are also a lot of products out there that contain what's called salicylic acid ... it tends to reduce cattiny stickiness”— Andrew Huberman
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Zinc oxide mineral sunscreen

“mineral-based sunscreens so-called inorganic sunscreens containing things like zinc oxide or titanium dioxide are designed to reflect back UV light”— Andrew Huberman

Big reveals from this episode

  • A dermatologic oncologist tells Huberman the skin cancers that sun exposure causes are generally NOT the most deadly; some of the deadliest melanomas are independent of sun exposure.
  • Huberman pushes back on online claims that he doesn't believe in sunscreen, saying that is false and he has worn sunscreen his whole life.
  • Laser resurfacing can cause roughly a 30% reduction in certain skin cancers by rejuvenating the epidermal layer.
  • He reframes the famous Swedish study: non-smokers who avoided sun had life expectancy similar to smokers in the highest-sun group, but says the popular 'sun = longevity' conclusion is confounded.
  • Admits there is essentially no good human evidence for BPC-157 and says he cannot in good conscience recommend BPC-157 skin products.
  • Dermatologists told him people can start retinoids in their 20s and reported 'remarkable results' for skin youthfulness.
  • Counterintuitive: nonfat and low-fat dairy can spike insulin MORE than full-fat dairy due to emulsifiers, potentially worsening acne.
  • Dermatologists 'practically begged' him to tell listeners not to pop pimples because it can cause permanent indentation scarring.

Worth remembering

  • Mineral sunscreens with zinc oxide or titanium dioxide are generally considered safe up to 25% concentration; zinc reflects UV while chemical sunscreens absorb it.
  • Chemical sunscreens should be avoided on children under 6 months because young skin absorbs substances transdermally much like mucosal tissue.
  • Eating collagen appears to be a rare exception where ingesting a protein selectively benefits the same tissue (skin), unlike, e.g., eating liver for your liver.
  • Suggested collagen dosing is about 15-30 grams of collagen peptides per day, ideally with 500-1,000 mg vitamin C.
  • Niacinamide at 500 mg twice daily (1 g/day) can boost ceramide production, but effects take 3-6 months to appear.
  • Red light plus near-infrared phototherapy, about 1-2 feet away for 10-15 minutes, 5-7 days a week, shows mild-to-moderate improvements in skin youthfulness.
  • The teenage 'fried food causes breakouts' warning is essentially true, largely via inflammation and insulin response from high-heat processed foods.
  • Huberman recommends 1-4 servings of low-sugar fermented foods (refrigerated kimchi, sauerkraut, pickles) per day for gut and skin health.
  • Acne affects 80-90% of young people, and about 10% of people worldwide have acne at any given moment.
  • For over 80 years psoriasis was thought to be simple skin-cell overproduction; it's now understood as immune-driven, treatable with drugs targeting interleukin-17 and interleukin-23.