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Joe Rogan · 2026-05-07

Joe Rogan Experience #2495 - Tim Burchett

Congressman Tim Burchett tells Joe Rogan why he believes the UFO cover-up is real, plus insider trading, the Taliban cash pipeline, and MK Ultra.

Joe Rogan Experience #2495 - Tim Burchett
The guest

Tim Burchett: Republican U.S. Congressman from East Tennessee and former Knox County mayor, known as one of Congress's most outspoken advocates for UFO/UAP disclosure. Son of a WWII Marine, he also makes handmade skateboards.

What this episode covers

Burchett walks Rogan through his years pushing for government disclosure on UFOs/UAPs, describing classified briefings, hostile intelligence officials, and pilots brought in to testify. The conversation widens into what he sees as systemic Washington corruption: congressional insider stock trading, dark money, and billions in cash flowing to the Taliban through NGOs and the UN. They dig into MK Ultra, the Kennedy and Trump assassination attempts, COVID and Big Pharma, and Trump's psychedelics executive order. Burchett repeatedly frames the throughline as powerful interests hiding the truth from ordinary Americans, while sharing personal stories about his WWII-veteran parents.

Recommended on this episode

BookRecommended

Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties

Tom O'Neill

“There's a fantastic book called Chaos ... It's phenomenal. And it's mind-blowing.”
“There's a fantastic book called Chaos by Tom O'Neill. It's all about the Manson family. Have you ever read it? It's phenomenal. And it's mind-blowing.”— Joe Rogan
BookRecommendedISBN verified

Best Evidence: Disguise and Deception in the Assassination of John F. Kennedy

David Lifton

“there's a great book on it called Best Evidence”
“And there's a great book on it called Best Evidence by David Lifton, and he was an accountant that was hired to go over the Warren Commission Report.”— Joe Rogan
MediaRecommended

The Age of Disclosure

Dan Farah

“it's really great. If you haven't seen it folks and you're interested in the UFO phenomenon”
“the documentary Age of Disclosure, yeah, and you're in that. Um it's really great. If you haven't seen it folks and you're interested in the UFO phenomenon”— Joe Rogan
MediaRecommended

Ancient Aliens

Prometheus Entertainment

“It's great. that show. I love those guys ... I love it. I love it.”
“Ancient Aliens. I'm sorry. It's great. that show. I love those guys. They're all great. I love it. I love it.”— Tim Burchett

The guest's own work

ProductBy the guest

Burchett Board (handmade skateboards)

Tim Burchett

“no, I make skateboards. So, I make this crazy skateboard ... made out of bamboo, oak, and banana fibers off the banana plant.”— Tim Burchett

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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S4

Luigi

“there's a new documentary that he just did called S4, where they use CGI and they made models of the craft and they made him like they brought him you know”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

Dallas Buyers Club

Jean-Marc Vallee

“He's the villain in that movie, the Dallas Buyers Club. That's about him preventing people from taking alternative medications.”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

Holy Hell

Will Allen

“There's a documentary about the cult called Holy Hell. And uh yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy but it's a sex cult.”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Titebond III Ultimate Wood Glue

Franklin International

“I use uh Titebond III glue. It's waterproof and water-based. And then um and then I just sand them all down”— Tim Burchett

Big reveals from this episode

  • Burchett says he's being briefed by phone the next day at 3pm by an intelligence official about possible disclosure.
  • Reveals a former Trump staffer warned him to 'get some bodies around you' over his UFO push.
  • Argues the disclosure debate is partly a vehicle to grant amnesty for decades of misappropriated black-budget funds.
  • Claims assassination suspects like Thomas Crooks may be MK Ultra-style programmed and that crime scenes are professionally scrubbed.
  • States the Taliban receives roughly $40 million a week, routed via NGOs and UN cash shipments.
  • Says Elon Musk told him NGOs may have stolen over a trillion dollars in funneled federal money.
  • Credits Rick Perry and a veteran friend for converting him into a champion of Trump's psychedelics bill.
  • Recounts a federal employee telling him the President is on a 'need-to-know basis' regarding UFO information.

Worth remembering

  • Rogan says his Bob Lazar episode is his most-viewed YouTube episode ever at roughly 65-66 million views.
  • Burchett illustrates UFO travel with his 1947 Indian Chief motorcycle taken back to Mayflower-era settlers.
  • Burchett cashed out his entire $11,000 mutual fund and backs a bill banning members from owning individual stocks.
  • More people have played professional baseball than have served in the U.S. Congress.
  • Burchett sleeps on the couch in his D.C. office and showers at the gym because housing there is unaffordable.
  • At a JFK hearing an ER doctor presented a poster arguing the bullets came from two different directions.
  • Burchett hand-makes skateboards from bamboo, oak, and banana fibers but is barred by ethics rules from selling them.
  • One of his handmade skateboards sold at auction for $5,200.
  • The UN reportedly transported at least $2.9 billion in U.S. cash to Afghanistan, with around 80 shipments.
  • Burchett relays the claim that President Jimmy Carter cried when briefed on UFO information.