The guest
Duncan Trussell: Comedian, host of the Duncan Trussell Family Hour podcast, and longtime psychedelic/spiritual philosopher who co-hosted the Midnight Gospel with Pendleton Ward.
What this episode covers
Joe Rogan and Duncan Trussell open on UFO disclosure as a deliberately boring 'slow drip,' then spiral into the imminent arrival of strong general AI, framed as a cosmic 'final bunny' or hatching machine-god that may already be manipulating culture. Duncan shares a major personal turn: a recent type-2 diabetes diagnosis that he traces partly to sugar in his vapes, and how quitting sugar and nicotine plus working out (saunas, cold plunge, sled, chin-ups) transformed his mood and energy. The conversation ranges across depression and male isolation, malaria-drug-induced psychosis, the pharmaceutical-and-sugar profit complex, election fraud and January 6th, Bohemian Grove, Burning Man, and the slow cultural acceptance of psychedelics. Throughout, Duncan returns to a nondual spiritual thesis: that suffering and addiction are 'gurus' teaching us we are more than our bodies. He closes by plugging his audiobook, The Movie of Me to the Movie of We.
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The guest's own work
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The Movie of Me to the Movie of We
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“we recorded this audio book called the movie of me to the movie of we that's it it's just an Audi book”— Duncan Trussell
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Audible
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Big reveals from this episode
- Duncan reveals he was diagnosed with type-2 diabetes about a month ago and immediately cut out all sugar, feeling reborn within days.
- He links his blood-sugar spikes to vaping, after Googling and finding many vapes contain sugar/sugar alcohols, and quit vaping too.
- Duncan discloses he has testicular cancer, which prevents him from going on testosterone therapy.
- Duncan recounts taking malaria medication (mefloquine) in India that caused a vivid disemboweling nightmare; his friend got full amnesia and was institutionalized after the same drug.
- They propose presidential candidates should be required to undergo documented psychedelic sessions, citing Graham Hancock's '20 ayahuasca/psilocybin experiences' idea.
- They react to a Fauci hot-mic clip about making life difficult so people lose their 'ideological bull' and get vaccinated.
Worth remembering
- Element 115 is described (via Bob Lazar) as a super-heavy element that produces its own anti-gravitational field used to propel craft.
- They recount the ChatGPT 'happiest bunny' image experiment escalating into a cosmic, DMT-like depiction of God.
- Cameron Hanes's son broke a chin-up world record with 8,100 chin-ups in 24 hours, done in sets of five.
- Duncan explains Pavel Tsatsouline's 'strong first' philosophy: strength is a skill, so do low reps with long rests to avoid fatigue.
- Mefloquine (FDA-approved 1989) was linked in the 1990s to vivid dreams, mania, seizures, depression, suicide and homicide.
- Leg-lengthening surgery cuts the bone and uses a screw to separate it a millimeter at a time to gain height.
- Nixon's leaked White House tapes show him calling the Bohemian Grove the 'most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine.'
- A man was arrested for posting a meme telling people they could vote for Hillary Clinton by texting.
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