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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27

Joe Rogan Experience #1899 - Yannis Pappas

Joe Rogan and comedian Yannis Pappas riff on barbecue, bears, the FTX crypto collapse, conspiracies, politics, freedom and self-discipline.

Joe Rogan Experience #1899 - Yannis Pappas
The guest

Yannis Pappas: Greek-American stand-up comedian and podcaster, host of the solo 'Long Days with Yannis Pappas' show, longtime friend of Joe Rogan.

What this episode covers

A loose, wide-ranging conversation between Joe Rogan and comedian Yannis Pappas that opens on Texas barbecue, German food heritage, bears and the deteriorating human senses, then ranges into evolution, hominids like Homo floresiensis, and California water/desalination. The centerpiece is a long breakdown of the FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried collapse, the polycule in the Bahamas, missing billions, crypto tokens versus coins, and celebrity crypto endorsements. From there they spiral into conspiracy territory: Epstein, mysterious crypto-developer drownings, and the alleged 'suicide' of Clinton adviser Mark Middleton. The back half turns political and philosophical, covering socialism, North Korea, Iran's crackdown on protesters, immigration, abortion, gun laws, money in politics, and the value of rule of law, before closing on discipline, humility and Detroit's decline.

Recommended on this episode

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A Man for All Seasons

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“it's probably on YouTube it's the it gives me chills every time I see it when I watch it”— Joe Rogan

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Moneyball

Michael Lewis

“Michael Lewis is the guy's name he's the writer of like Moneyball and The Big Short many books”— Joe Rogan
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The Big Short

Michael Lewis

“Michael Lewis is the guy's name he's the writer of like Moneyball and The Big Short many books”— Joe Rogan
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Ancient Apocalypse

Graham Hancock

“that whole Graham Hancock series that's on Netflix right now called uh ancient catastrophe that's what we call ancient apocalypse”— Joe Rogan
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House of Cards

Netflix

“when you watch House of Cards and you go hmm is that about the clintons people who haven't seen House of Cards”— Joe Rogan
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Roger and Me

“that's Roger and me a documentary Roger and me you see how devastating it was to all the communities”— Joe Rogan
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Loose Change

“those kids made that Loose Change documentary and look obviously a lot of it's proven wrong”— Joe Rogan
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Gutsy

Apple TV+

“she's got some Apple TV show with her daughter where she's sitting there with Megan the stallion they're gutsy”— Joe Rogan
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Top Gear

“did you ever see the guys from Top Gear they did that they went and they bought a house in Detroit for like 500 bucks”— Joe Rogan
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Game of Thrones

HBO

“if you still got bows and arrows you still got swords you still live in Game of Thrones style”— Joe Rogan
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Patek Philippe

Patek Philippe

“he's got a Patek Philippe Watch on and he's got a private jet he knows the [ __ ] he's doing”— Joe Rogan
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SimpliSafe

SimpliSafe

“or at least this [ __ ] Simply Safe account they don't even have a [ __ ] security alarm on it”— Joe Rogan
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Netflix

Netflix

“there's like two different tiers of Netflix now like there's Netflix with ads now have you watched that”— Joe Rogan
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iPhone

Apple

“we need to keep those trains moving people need their [ __ ] iPhones we'll also you need their upgrade”— Joe Rogan
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Tinder

Tinder

“on the Tinder yeah what they're doing is it's like you have too much access”— Joe Rogan
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Plan B

“she could just take a Plan B pill or when she can go and get an abortion”— Joe Rogan

Big reveals from this episode

  • Extended breakdown of the FTX collapse, with Sam Bankman-Fried allegedly running it from a Bahamas polycule with ten people while billions went missing.
  • SEC charged Kim Kardashian and she settled for $1.26 million for touting EthereumMax crypto without disclosing a $250,000 payment.
  • Claim that FTX/Alameda were among the largest Democratic Party donors, allegedly second only to George Soros.
  • Allegation that FTX's head of compliance was previously linked to the UltimateBet poker cheating scandal of the 2010s.
  • Story of Clinton adviser Mark Middleton, who admitted Epstein to the White House and was found hanged from a tree with a shotgun blast to the chest, ruled self-inflicted.
  • Reports that Iran arrested roughly 14,000-15,000 protesters and that its parliament voted to execute protesters after a woman was killed over her headscarf.
  • North Korean defector Yomi Park's argument that the enemy is poverty, not inequality, contrasting America's opportunity with North Korea's starvation.

Worth remembering

  • Texas barbecue tradition traces back to German immigrants who smoked their meat in the old country.
  • According to Steve Rinella, about 90% of US trichinosis cases come from people eating black bear.
  • Bears eat roughly 50% of all elk calves and deer fawns, smelling out newborns downwind.
  • A bear's sense of smell is cited as around 2,100 times better than a human's.
  • A theory that Earth once had two moons that merged in a slow-motion collision after a Mars-sized planet struck early Earth.
  • Homo floresiensis ('hobbit' humans) on the island of Flores lived alongside modern humans as recently as ~50,000 years ago.
  • The World Economic Forum's 2016 'you will own nothing and you will be happy' message is a real posted statement.
  • US public schools are funded largely by local property taxes, making education quality highly inequitable.
  • The 9/11 'Loose Change' documentary is noted as largely debunked but flagged a few genuinely strange details like Saudi nationals flying out during the airspace shutdown.