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Tim Ferriss · 2024-03-13

How to Sell Millions with Self-Publishing — Hugh Howey, Bestselling Author of Wool

Hugh Howey tells Tim Ferriss how Wool became a self-publishing phenomenon and shares hard-won lessons on writing, rights, AI, and life.

How to Sell Millions with Self-Publishing — Hugh Howey, Bestselling Author of Wool
The guest

Hugh Howey: Bestselling science-fiction author of Wool and the Silo Trilogy, adapted into Apple TV+'s top drama Silo; pioneer of self-publishing who retained his digital, audio, and foreign rights.

What this episode covers

Hugh Howey walks Tim Ferriss through the deliberate craft and business decisions behind Wool, including the emotional roller-coaster Q&A he placed at the end of the book that helped make it Amazon's most-reviewed item the year it launched. He explains how he committed to writing in obscurity for ten years, hit the New York Times list as a self-published author, and broke industry norms by insisting on time-limited, print-only deals while keeping all other rights. The conversation covers his daily writing habit, collaboration on TV and film projects, and pricing psychology around avoiding one-star reviews. Later they range widely into AI's coming impact on publishing, existential risk, population decline, religion, free will, and objective moral truth. Throughout, Howey balances short-term optimism with long-term pessimism while reflecting on starting a family.

Recommended on this episode

BookRecommendedISBN verified

This Is How You Lose the Time War

Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone

“which is so good ... that is an incredible book ... it's one of those that you could just pick up and read again to like remind yourself what writing can sound like”
“one was this is how you lose the time War which is so good yeah it's so good that is an incredible book and it's short”— Hugh Howey
BookRecommendedISBN verified

Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

Gabrielle Zevin

“when I finally finished it I was like that's what I'm made for with my writing ... this book pays off”
“another one that someone recommended was tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow ... when I finally finished it I was like that's that's what I'm made for with my writing”— Hugh Howey
BookRecommendedISBN verified

The Lincoln Highway

Amor Towles

“linoln Highway which I thought was spectacular”
“someone recommended linoln highway to me linoln Highway which I thought was spectacular anything by amore tolls”— Hugh Howey
BookRecommended

A Table for Two

Amor Towles

“get it on day one because there's one short story in particular on there that is the cleverest thing I've ever read”
“there's a short story collection coming out by him this year called a table for two ... get it on day one because there's one short story in particular on there that is the cleverest thing I've ever read”— Hugh Howey
ProductRecommended

Pi

Inflection AI

“pie is like a person that's living in our pocket like it's so endearing ... asking Pi is so much more fun than Googling it”
“with my wife and I like pie is like a person that's living in our pocket like it's so endearing ... asking Pi is so much more fun than Googling it”— Hugh Howey
MediaRecommended

The Teaching Company ethics course (objective moral truth)

The Teaching Company / The Great Courses

“one of the best was a Teaching Company course ... I found myself getting a whiplash I was nodding my head so much through it all it really synthesized a lot of things”
“one of the best was a Teaching Company course was a like a Harvard Professor philosophy ... one was about the idea that world truth is objective”— Hugh Howey

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

Wool

Hugh Howey

“how you structured the end of wool and I want to say it was related to a bit of creative slight of hand taking readers through emotions”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Silo Trilogy

Hugh Howey

“you have wool and your Silo Trilogy was later dab by Apple TV becoming the number one drama of all time”— Tim Ferriss

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

MediaReferenced

Silo

Apple TV+

“your Silo Trilogy was later dab by Apple TV becoming the number one drama of all time”— Tim Ferriss
BookReferencedISBN verified

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Douglas Adams

“I think it was uh hitchhiker's guy to the Galaxy and Enders Game I read them back to back and I'd never read books like this before”— Hugh Howey
BookReferencedISBN verified

Ender's Game

Orson Scott Card

“hitchhiker's guy to the Galaxy and Enders Game I read them back to back and I'd never read books like this before there aren't many books like this”— Hugh Howey
ProductReferenced

CreateSpace

Amazon

“it was through create space at the time which is what Amazon's print on demand I think it was called”— Hugh Howey
MediaReferenced

Wired (Kevin Kelly piece)

Wired

“I think he wrote in his wired piece that he felt net net no one would lose jobs because of AI”— Tim Ferriss
ProductReferenced

ChatGPT

OpenAI

“Chad GPT was never really made to be a conversationalist but some of these like there's one called pie”— Hugh Howey
ProductReferenced

Replika

Luka

“there's one called pie there's one called replica replica Sheila there's these handful that are so conversational”— Hugh Howey
ProductReferenced

Nvidia

Nvidia

“instead we're like oh Nvidia is worth investing our money in like this is one of the best stocks”— Hugh Howey
BookReferencedISBN verified

The Iliad

Homer

“the fact that I can read The Iliad 2,000 year old story written in a different language in a different time and the human emotion of it resonates”— Hugh Howey

Big reveals from this episode

  • Howey engineered an author Q&A at the end of Wool to create an emotional roller coaster and ask readers to leave reviews, which made it the most-reviewed and highest-reviewed item on Amazon the year it came out.
  • He decided to write two books a year for ten years in obscurity, reasoning that after 20 books he would know if he had what it took, and that having a back list before breaking out is a major advantage.
  • Instead of selling all rights, Howey insisted on a five-year print-only deal with Simon & Schuster, keeping digital, audio, and all foreign rights, so he can re-auction the IP every five years.
  • He hit the New York Times bestseller list with a self-published book distributed only through CreateSpace, despite selling roughly 50,000 copies a month, by slipping past gatekeepers who weren't paying attention.
  • Howey priced the Wool ebook at 99 cents and later made the first part free, prioritizing readership and avoiding angry one-star reviews over profit, yet it out-earned all his other books combined.
  • Publishers told him a colleague got phone calls from rival houses blasting them for offering Howey a print-only deal, revealing how uniform and collusive the industry's standard terms are.
  • When Howey offered to give publishers print rights for free in exchange for keeping digital, they refused and instead offered a million dollars for all rights, exposing that they privately knew digital's true value.
  • Howey frames humanity's real existential risk as building a 'button' that could end everyone, citing basement-level CRISPR genetic engineering, dormant simultaneous-activation viruses, and infinite-capacity batteries enabling cheap global drone warfare.

Worth remembering

  • Howey's first works of science fiction at age 12 or 13 were Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Ender's Game, read back to back, and his first writing attempt was Hitchhiker's Guide fanfiction.
  • He signed away his first book's rights to a small press for thousands of dollars, then felt sick to his stomach the night he celebrated, and bought the rights back to self-publish.
  • He circumvented the agent route by tweeting in the voice of his character Molly, which led two small presses to discover and make offers on his blog and Twitter feed.
  • The original Wool paperbacks, of which only a few hundred sold before the cover changed, now go for around $1,000 each.
  • Amazon pays 70% royalty on ebooks priced between $2.99 and $9.99, but only 35% outside that range, versus the roughly 15-18% traditionally published authors earn.
  • Howey has done roughly 50 foreign-rights deals for Wool, and in Taiwan chose the lowest bidder, a one-man operation who translates himself, and got the number-one selling book there that year.
  • Howey tried and failed to write for 20 years, from age 12 to 32, before unlocking a daily habit; he used to write 2,000 words a day and now targets 1,000, tracking word counts in his document.
  • His writing breakthrough came from reviewing a book a day for a friend's crime/mystery website, building bookshelves all over his house to hold the flood of free review copies.
  • Howey and writing partner Matt Maddox once pushed five TV/film projects forward in a single day by writing outlines together then splitting acts to write in parallel.
  • Howey and his wife started embryos two days before the recording; he had a vasectomy ('forced extraction') a week earlier and joked he could still feel it.