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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27

Joe Rogan Experience #1945 - Eric Weinstein

Eric Weinstein argues physics has stagnated 50 years, links UFOs and 1950s anti-gravity research to a suppressed post-Einstein theory, and pleads for human unity.

Joe Rogan Experience #1945 - Eric Weinstein
The guest

Eric Weinstein: Mathematician and physicist, former managing director of Renaissance Technologies, creator of the 'Geometric Unity' theory and host of 'The Portal' podcast.

What this episode covers

Eric Weinstein and Joe Rogan spend over four hours connecting theoretical physics, UFOs, geopolitics, and culture. Weinstein's central claim is that fundamental physics has been frozen for roughly 50 years since the 1973 Standard Model, dominated by a string-theory/quantum-gravity program he says has never made contact with physical reality. He traces the field's strange history to two families (the Wittens and DeWitts) whose roots lie in 1950s anti-gravity research funded by Roger Babson's Gravity Research Foundation. Weinstein explains why he reversed his dismissal of UFOs: years of being teased with undeliverable 'disclosure,' the total absence of competent physicists on these programs, and his own 'Geometric Unity' framework that allows extra time dimensions and space-time engineering. The conversation widens into the Ukraine war, COVID origins, Epstein, the Kanye/Hitler episode, antisemitism, and a long plea, via Dave Chappelle and comedy, for Americans to come together.

Recommended on this episode

BookRecommended

The Feynman Lectures on Gravitation

Richard Feynman

“these these notes are fantastic”
“which was like the Fineman lectures on gravitation 1962 to 63 and they were effed up they it was”— Eric Weinstein
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Oculus

Oculus

“I highly recommend it”
“have you done this in Oculus no I have not I highly recommend it they're not going to let us do a nuke above ground”— Joe Rogan
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Drown in My Own Tears (Jeff Beck version)

Jeff Beck

“one of the greatest vocal performances I've ever heard I cry I pulled over to the side of the road and wept”
“if you look at for example Jeff Beck's version of drown in my own tears with Jules holl that is one of the greatest vocal performances I've ever heard”— Eric Weinstein
MediaRecommended

Stormy Monday (Eva Cassidy)

Eva Cassidy

“something about the sickness causes her voice to do something no voice has ever done”
“you ever heard Eva Cassidy gets sick and sing stormy Monday and something about the sickness causes her voice to do something no voice has ever done”— Joe Rogan

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers

Jeremy Corbell

“I abandoned it for a long time until I watched the Bob Lazar documentary when uh Jeremy Corbell made that Bob Lazar documentary”— Joe Rogan
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Airplane!

“it reminds me of you you probably know Airplane movie well there's this point where they're trying to land this airplane”— Eric Weinstein
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Fitbit

Fitbit

“so you gave Lex a watch and I started talking about multiple time Dimensions so I gave him my Fitbit”— Eric Weinstein
MediaReferenced

The Dark Side of the Moon

Pink Floyd

“on a cassette tape you've played your favorite album all the way through like Dark Side of the Moon”— Eric Weinstein
MediaReferenced

The Doors

The Doors

“think of a phonograph the record is like the 14-dimensional world and are you a doors fan”— Eric Weinstein
MediaReferenced

Star Wars

“since the mid-70s we've been able to do CGI in Star Wars that looks much more realistic than any video I've ever seen”— Eric Weinstein
ProductReferenced

Glenmorangie

Glenmorangie

“you Glenn morange Mori is that how you say it I don't know how's it spelled I thought it was Mori”— Eric Weinstein
MediaReferenced

The Matrix

“scene of The Matrix um is they got really intimidating Joe now I'm scared”— Eric Weinstein

Big reveals from this episode

  • Weinstein dates a 50-year stagnation in particle theory to February 1973, comparing it to a number-one song staying atop the charts for half a century.
  • He names Edward Witten as the most dominant living physicist yet says Witten 'has never made contact with the physical world', no Nobel, no validated prediction.
  • The quantum-gravity field traces to two families, the Wittens and DeWitts, whose origins lie in 1950s anti-gravity work funded by Roger Babson and Agnew Bahnson.
  • Weinstein reveals he and Sam Harris were contacted about a planned UFO 'disclosure' that has been promised and postponed for about three years.
  • His core UFO clue: no one on these government programs actually speaks physics, only Eric W. Davis and Hal Puthoff come close.
  • He describes 'Geometric Unity': growing or shrinking the ruler (the metric) to traverse vast distances, and the possibility of multiple time dimensions.
  • Weinstein recounts personally being with Kanye West and racing to TMZ to stop release of Kanye's 'I love Hitler' remarks.
  • He says he proposed the Seiberg-Witten equations at Harvard years before Witten, was 'laughed out,' and later left mathematics over the lost credit.

Worth remembering

  • The 1932 discovery of the neutron, an uncharged particle that can split nuclei, set humanity on the path to fission and thermonuclear weapons.
  • The 1968 Fosbury Flop is offered as a 'zero-day exploit' in high jump, alongside Hiroaki Satoh's sound-deadening sponge table-tennis bat.
  • Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine's father) is blamed for introducing peer review across science around 1965 via Pergamon Press as a profit hack.
  • The 1973 Mansfield Amendment ended Department of Defense 'Blue Sky' funding for open-ended university research.
  • Weinstein lists four hedge-fund fortunes that 'made no sense', D.E. Shaw, Bernie Madoff, Jeffrey Epstein, and Renaissance Technologies.
  • The Casimir effect is cited as real negative energy, which Weinstein says geckos exploit to climb walls.
  • The Aharonov-Bohm experiment showed the electromagnetic potential, not the field, determines physics, an unexpected 1950s discovery.
  • In Supernova 1987A, neutrinos and photons arrived almost simultaneously, confirming neutrinos have a tiny mass.
  • North Sentinel Island, isolated tribespeople unaware they are 'claimed by India', is Weinstein's model for humanity and possible observers.
  • He argues the Higgs boson, found in 2012, required a giant collider only because it is a 'stupid piece of equipment' banging protons together.