The guest
Michael Malice: Anarchist author, podcaster, and provocateur known for political commentary and contrarian takes.
What this episode covers
Joe Rogan welcomes Michael Malice for a sprawling, freewheeling conversation that opens with Malice's trip to Japan and the joy of Japanese craftsmanship before pivoting to American urban decay and crime policy. Much of the episode dissects the 2024 election turmoil, including Biden's debate collapse, the push to install Kamala Harris, body-double speculation, and Seymour Hersh's reported coup against Biden. They cover the Trump assassination attempt, media gaslighting, social-media bots, and figures like Elon Musk, John Fetterman, and Tulsi Gabbard. Lighter tangents touch on drugs, animal intelligence, cryptids, body dysmorphia, and the simulation theory, ending on Malice praising Strangers with Candy.
Recommended on this episode
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Strangers with Candy
Comedy Central
“one of the greatest shows of all time”
“Strangers With Candy was one of the greatest shows of all time it was one of the most transgressive shows of all time”— Michael Malice
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The Cabin in the Woods
Joss Whedon
“fun ass movie yeah I love that”
“cabinet the wood was a fun that movie it was fun mov... it was like a love letter to horror movies”— Joe Rogan
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Jiro Dreams of Sushi
David Gelb
“you saw jro dreams of su well I put in my phone I like you better than jro and he lost it”— Joe Rogan
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Limitless
“it's like that movie Limitless was based on Aderall right”— Michael Malice
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Fight Club
“Kurt had just seen Fight Club and Patrice is like oh that's the ultimate white people movie”— Michael Malice
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The Call of the Wild
“that was in Call of the Wild too was it yeah like the dog like killed the chickens and the owner like don't do that”— Joe Rogan
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Hellraiser
“why do you have the Hellraiser box cuz it goes well with the orb is it functional the Hellraiser box”— Michael Malice
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The Art of the Deal
Donald Trump
“you know that book is called the art of the deal it's like one Space Monkey figures out paper”— Joe Rogan
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The Dark Side of Camelot
Seymour Hersh
“he wrote The Dark Side of Camelot if I'm not mistaken um he had a thing on his substack that goes Biden got the call”— Joe Rogan
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Cocaine
Buckcherry
“have you ever heard the Buck Cherry song Cocaine all lit up you know that song that song makes me want to do Coke”— Joe Rogan
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Go with the Flow
Queens of the Stone Age
“when it happens to me I just hear that Queens of the Stone Age song go with the flow”— Michael Malice
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Tesla Cybertruck
Tesla
“I am the first person on Earth I believe learning how to drive on a cyber truck really yes”— Michael Malice
Big reveals from this episode
- Malice relays Seymour Hersh's report that Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, and Jeffries threatened Biden with the 25th Amendment unless he dropped out.
- Malice makes a direct plea for both Trump and Biden to free Ross Ulbricht, noting Trump promised to commute his sentence at the Libertarian convention.
- Discussion that Ross Ulbricht got double life plus 40 years and $183 million restitution despite uncharged murder-for-hire allegations being used at sentencing.
- Claim that a former FBI analyst estimated more than 80% of Twitter accounts are bots.
- Malice predicts Biden will not remain president through January and games out who Harris would pick as VP.
Worth remembering
- After 9/11 grounded air travel, US temperatures measurably increased because contrails normally block sunlight.
- Claim that roughly 90-94% of large fish in the ocean have disappeared due to overfishing.
- Numazu, Japan hosts what is described as the world's only deep-sea aquarium.
- Discussion that taking even one's own-gender hormones carries real downsides, contrary to common framing.
- A study of old videos suggests at least three chimpanzees learned to speak rudimentary human words like 'mama' and 'cup'.
- Sightings in the 1800s Congo described crocodiles possibly up to 40-50 feet long.
- Biden reportedly received six doses of Paxlovid for his COVID infection, which a doctor friend called excessive.
- Elon Musk's Cybertruck opens its charge port on the voice command 'open butthole,' a nod to a Simpsons joke.
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