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Joe Rogan · 2024-09-26

Joe Rogan Experience #2207 - Shawn Ryan

Shawn Ryan and Joe Rogan range across media distrust, the southern border, China, AI, UFOs, and ibogaine healing.

Joe Rogan Experience #2207 - Shawn Ryan
The guest

Shawn Ryan: Former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor turned host of the Shawn Ryan Show, a long-form podcast focused on military, intelligence, and veteran issues.

What this episode covers

Joe Rogan hosts Shawn Ryan for a wide-ranging conversation that opens on UFO/UAP skepticism and government secrecy before moving into food additives, FDA corruption, and media manipulation. They spend significant time on election theater, the porous southern border, the Afghanistan withdrawal, and the national-security threat posed by China across the power grid, semiconductors, and espionage. The back half turns philosophical, covering AI as a possible new life form, remote viewing, lost human instincts, and alien abduction accounts. The episode closes with Shawn's personal ibogaine experience that ended his alcohol and Adderall addiction, plus the origin stories of both men's podcasts.

Recommended on this episode

ProductRecommended

Yuka

Yuka

“you got to get the Yuka app”
“have you heard of the Yuka app no dude you got to get the Yuka app what is it so you basically scan anything food related”— Shawn Ryan
ProductRecommended

iPhone 11

Apple

“works great nothing wrong with it”
“I have a iPhone 11 that I use sometimes like one of my numbers works great nothing wrong with it”— Joe Rogan

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

BookReferencedISBN verified

Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72

Hunter S. Thompson

“when he wrote Fear and Loathing on the campaign Trail so he created a rumor that Ed musky had a severe ibogaine addiction”— Joe Rogan
BookReferencedISBN verified

Abduction

John Mack

“John Mack was a psychologist who was at Harvard who wrote this book I think it's called abduction”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

Fire in the Sky

Robert Lieberman

“the Travis Walton story you ever heard that one... did they make a movie about yeah Fire in the Sky I've seen it”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

Roger & Me

Michael Moore

“where's what is it Michael Moore's documentary the Flint Michigan one what is it called again Roger and me”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum

Lionsgate

“I used to teach weapons and tactics and I taught Keanu Reeves for John Wick 3 and then I got a lot of hate”— Shawn Ryan

Big reveals from this episode

  • Lucky Charms sold in the US uses dyes banned in Canada because they are considered toxic, pointing to regulatory corruption.
  • A 2017 study found roughly one-third of FDA-approved drugs receive alerts, warnings, or recalls within 10 years of approval.
  • Shawn alleges the Taliban-run passport office is issuing legitimate passports to terrorists who are funneled through the Darien Gap into the US.
  • Shawn claims taking out nine key transformers, all imported from China and unchecked for malware, could knock out the entire US power grid.
  • Shawn warns BRICS nations are working to displace the US dollar as the world reserve currency, which would devastate the US economy.
  • Shawn's friend, after one ibogaine and 5-MeO treatment, went from bedridden and caned to walking and functional within six months.
  • Shawn lost 11 pounds in a week and quit alcohol, Adderall, Ambien, and sugar with zero effort after his ibogaine experience.
  • Hunter S. Thompson derailed Ed Muskie's 1972 campaign by spreading a fake rumor that Muskie was addicted to ibogaine.

Worth remembering

  • Shawn cites data that higher fluoride levels in water correlate with measurable dips in IQ in affected areas.
  • Joe describes how political rallies could use paid audiences the same way game shows and sitcoms hire crowds to cheer on cue.
  • Joe says the JRE was demonetized often on YouTube until he announced the move to Spotify, after which it stopped.
  • Joe says Apple-style factories in China have suicide nets around buildings to catch workers jumping to their deaths.
  • Joe references the claim that George Soros bought roughly 200 radio stations.
  • Samsung withdrew personnel from its Taylor, Texas plant after 2nm yields stalled at the 10-20% range.
  • Joe cites John Mack's Harvard research on abductees who independently report strikingly similar experiences.
  • Before podcasting, Shawn tried alpaca farming and camping-stove reviews after backlash for training Keanu Reeves.
  • Shawn recorded his first episode in his attic with 30-minute-timer cameras his wife kept resetting; first guest was Mike Glover.
  • Joe argues the podcast market is not too saturated, insisting a good show will still rise organically.