Joe Rogan Experience #2221 - JD Vance

Recorded six days before the 2024 election, JD Vance sits down with Joe Rogan for a wide-ranging conversation. He opens with how Trump picked him as VP and how Secret Service protection upended his family life. The bulk of the talk attacks what they frame as a quasi-religious 'woke' ideology, the profit motives behind gender-transition medicine and big Pharma, and corporate influence over media. They cover the East Palestine train disaster, energy policy and wind turbines, media bias, the Hunter Biden laptop, immigration's effect on voting and wages, abortion as a states' issue, and psychedelic therapy for veterans. Vance closes urging listeners to vote for the Trump-Vance ticket.

• Vance recounts getting Trump's VP call at the RNC, with Trump first joking he'd 'pick somebody else.'
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• Vance says Trump nearly announced the VP pick in Butler, PA the day of the assassination attempt before deciding to wait.
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• After Trump was shot, Vance grabbed his kids, drove home, and stood guard at his front door with loaded guns.
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• Vance relays a secondhand story that pharma companies allegedly funneled opioid royalties to a Native American tribe to use tribal sovereignty as a litigation shield.
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• Vance says his and Trump's phones were hacked by a Chinese group called 'salt typhoon' via Patriot Act telecom backdoors.
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• Vance recounts a hotel-chain CEO admitting he hated Trump because tighter borders forced him to pay American workers higher wages instead of illegal labor.
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• Vance argues illegal immigrants count toward congressional apportionment, shifting House seats and Electoral College power away from citizens.
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• Vance, a Marine, says hitting Trump's ear from ~120-140 yards without a scope is an extraordinary shot, calling Trump's survival a genuine miracle.
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• Only the U.S. and New Zealand allow direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical TV advertising, legalized in the 1990s.
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• They claim wind turbines can't be recycled, degrade in salt water, kill birds and whales, and end up in landfills.
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• They cite that there is more greenery on Earth today than 100 years ago because trees consume carbon.
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• They note the Mongols allegedly lowered Earth's carbon footprint in the 1200s by killing ~10% of the population, letting forests regrow.
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• Vance cites CNN mentioning a comedian's Puerto Rico joke 143 times in 48 hours versus far less coverage of Biden's 'garbage' remark.
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• They state the LD50 (lethal dose) of psilocybin is effectively impossible to reach, yet it remains Schedule I.
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• The term 'marijuana' was popularized by William Randolph Hearst's newspapers; cannabis had been used for thousands of years.
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• The Declaration of Independence's first draft and the Mona Lisa were reportedly on hemp.
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• Americans take roughly six times as many SSRI prescriptions as economically comparable peer countries.
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