Hacker-turned-inventor Pablos Holman on why hacking everything, sequencing energy first, and funding deep tech beats building more iPhone apps.

Pablos Holman: Hacker, inventor, and deep-tech venture investor; early Blue Origin team member, alum of Nathan Myhrvold's Intellectual Ventures lab, author of 'Deep Future: Creating Technology That Matters.'
Pablos Holman traces his path from reverse-engineering an Apple II alone in 1970s Alaska to becoming a 'hacker magician' who stole passwords and cracked RFID credit cards live on stage. He argues the hacker mindset, asking 'what can I make this do?' rather than 'what does this do?', should be applied beyond computers to humanity's biggest problems. As an investor he now hunts deep-tech breakthroughs that are 10x better than the state of the art, taking technical risk instead of market risk in trillion-dollar industries Silicon Valley ignores. Recurring themes include solving energy (especially fission reactors) first as the lead domino, self-sailing autonomous cargo ships, and the China-versus-US race in building real industries. He also reflects on long time horizons learned from Jeff Bezos, the value of community, and a 20-year obsession with salsa as reverse-engineered physical communication.
“Oh, totally good movie. It's a good movie. It's awesome. Go watch it. And I don't even watch movies, but trust me, this one's good.”— Pablos Holman
“And War Games. Those are the two movies in the world to watch. War Games, the only defensible movie on hacking. Only defensible hacker movie ever.”— Pablos Holman
Oakley
“These are the best glasses ever made, which is why I started wearing them. they're made of titanium alloy. Oakley made them in their heyday.”— Pablos Holman
Pablos Holman
“So, I'm trying to pull from your book, which I've been devouring. Deep future, creating technology that matters. About threequarters of the way through.”— Tim Ferriss
“there was a book Tyler Cowan recommended. There's a book called Breakneck. one of my employees is reading it and recommended. He said it's an amazing page turner.”— Tim Ferriss
Neal Stephenson
“Snow Crash, Metaverse. I mean, when did Cryptonomicon come out? Which I love.”— Tim Ferriss
Neal Stephenson
“if you're any kind of nerd, Neil is a demigod. Snow Crash, Metaverse.”— Pablos Holman
Apple
“I got one when I was like 9 years old. One of the first couple thousand Apple 2s ever made. So I had a computer in the cold”— Pablos Holman
Schlage
“Schlage locks, the kind that you likely have in your front door, your house, can quickly be opened by banging a file down key with a small mallet.”— Tim Ferriss
“One of our buddies had made a tool called Air Snort to crack Wi-Fi. And we were cracking Wi-Fi and stealing passwords for fun.”— Pablos Holman
Nvidia
“All these hyperscalers have woken up this year to the fact that a chip from Nvidia needs a ton of energy and we've been burning gas to get it.”— Pablos Holman
Tesla
“we have a team that's developing cargo ships that are autonomous. You duct tape a Tesla to the front and it can drive across an ocean.”— Pablos Holman