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Tim Ferriss · 2020-05-04

Jim Jefferies on Comedy, Life Lessons, and the Magic of Filling Out Customs Forms

Australian comedian Jim Jefferies tells Tim Ferriss how he built a global stand-up career from open mics to specials.

Jim Jefferies on Comedy, Life Lessons, and the Magic of Filling Out Customs Forms
The guest

Jim Jefferies: Jim Jefferies is a Sydney-born stand-up comedian known for his provocative, thought-provoking comedy. He created and starred in the FX sitcom Legit and hosted The Jim Jefferies Show on Comedy Central.

What this episode covers

Jim Jefferies joins Tim Ferriss for a wide-ranging conversation tracing his path from a teenager bombing at the Sydney Comedy Store to becoming one of his generation's most popular comedians. He recounts studying opera at the same Perth academy as Hugh Jackman, performing for miners in remote Australian towns, and moving to the UK the day after the Twin Towers fell. Jefferies explains how the Edinburgh Festival shaped his craft, how his famous gun-control routine emerged from real arguments with Cheers actor John Ratzenberger, and why he writes material on stage rather than on paper. The discussion also covers comedic influences like George Carlin and Eddie Murphy, his love of Monty Python, the joys of fatherhood, and his new podcast I Don't Know About That.

Recommended on this episode

MediaRecommended

Monty Python's Life of Brian

Monty Python

“it's the perfect movie”
“well it's the perfect movie the thing about it is there's plenty of quotable sort of sketches in there”— Jim Jefferies
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Monty Python's The Meaning of Life

Monty Python

“i'd watch the meaning of life first”
“if you just want to have something that's like easy palatable... i'd watch the meaning of life first because it's small small sketches and it's easy to watch”— Jim Jefferies
MediaRecommended

Monty Python's Flying Circus

Monty Python

“the flying circus show is as good as anything”
“the flying circus show is as good as anything and all of those are on netflix and they're ready to watch”— Jim Jefferies
MediaRecommended

Eddie Murphy: Delirious

Eddie Murphy

“was a pivotal moment in my childhood”
“eddie murphy's delirious was a pivotal moment in my childhood... i couldn't get over that this guy was doing stand-up comedy for an hour that blew my mind”— Jim Jefferies
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Seinfeld

Larry David, Jerry Seinfeld

“i love those shows”
“i watched seinfeld i watch friends i watch cheers i watch all these things i love those shows”— Jim Jefferies
MediaRecommended

Friends

David Crane, Marta Kauffman

“i love those shows”
“i watched seinfeld i watch friends i watch cheers i watch all these things i love those shows”— Jim Jefferies
MediaRecommended

Cheers

James Burrows, Glen Charles, Les Charles

“i love those shows”
“i watched seinfeld i watch friends i watch cheers i watch all these things i love those shows”— Jim Jefferies

The guest's own work

MediaBy the guest

Legit

Jim Jefferies

“he created and starred in the sitcom legit in the comedy central late night show the jim jeffries show”— Tim Ferriss
MediaBy the guest

The Jim Jeffries Show

Jim Jefferies

“he created and starred in the sitcom legit in the comedy central late night show the jim jeffries show”— Tim Ferriss

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Fleabag

Phoebe Waller-Bridge

“her show was just a show at the edinburgh festival that some bbc executives saw and make it a tv show”— Jim Jefferies
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Punchline

David Seltzer

“it's basically the storyline of the movie punchline that tom hanks character who said he said oh no i'm going to be a doctor”— Jim Jefferies

Big reveals from this episode

  • Jefferies wanted to be a comedian from age 13-14, bombed three times around age 17, and after his dad told him comedy wasn't for him, didn't go back on stage until he was 20.
  • He was briefly a professional opera singer, getting into WAAPA (the West Australian Academy of Performing Arts) on the same scholarship course Hugh Jackman did, and sang in German in Wagner's The Flying Dutchman at 17.
  • He quit university without telling his parents to tour mining towns, then moved to England the day after 9/11 for his first solo overseas adventure.
  • A 2006 incident where he got punched in the head on stage in Manchester went viral and coincided with his first sold-out tour, becoming a career-defining moment.
  • His acclaimed gun-control routine was written entirely through real-life arguments with Cheers actor John Ratzenberger after the Sandy Hook shooting, not from research or statistics.
  • The story of taking his friend with muscular dystrophy to a brothel became the basis for his entire FX sitcom Legit (the pilot plus 26 episodes).
  • Jefferies never writes jokes down and does most of his writing live on stage, wedging two or three new minutes into his shows until a new hour forms over a year.

Worth remembering

  • There are two holes in the ozone layer, one over Australia, where weather forecasts include a daily UV rating and skin cancer is among the top cancers.
  • Australia's anti-sun-cancer campaign for kids was the slogan 'slip, slop, slap' (slip on a shirt, slop on sunscreen, slap on a hat), and schools now enforce a 'no hat, no play' policy.
  • Jefferies started running his own comedy nights in Perth, getting gigs in bars left empty because the 'Claremont killer' had scared away the nightlife.
  • Remote Australian mining-town bars employed topless female bartenders called 'skimpys' to reassure the all-male cowboy clientele they weren't gay.
  • An old saying: Americans think a hundred years is old, and British people think a hundred miles is far.
  • The Edinburgh Festival is not invite-only and runs roughly 2,000 shows in unlimited rooms (even four-seat closets and tents), operating from 9am to 4am.
  • The average loss for a comic doing the Edinburgh Festival is about 5,000 pounds of their own money, so merely breaking even is considered a success.
  • Phoebe Waller-Bridge's Fleabag began as an Edinburgh Festival show spotted by BBC executives, launching the career that led to her writing a James Bond film.
  • Growing up in Australia with only four TV channels and no comedy specials, Jefferies didn't know Richard Pryor was a comedian and thought stand-up only existed in five-minute sets until he saw Eddie Murphy's Delirious.