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Joe Rogan · 2025-03-14

Joe Rogan Experience #2290 - Michael Kosta

Comedian Michael Kosta joins Joe Rogan for a wide-ranging riff on combat sports, comedy craft, saunas, AI, and his new tennis memoir.

Joe Rogan Experience #2290 - Michael Kosta
The guest

Michael Kosta: Stand-up comedian and correspondent/co-host on Comedy Central's The Daily Show. A former pro tennis player (ranked as high as 864 in the world) turned comic, author of the memoir Lucky Loser.

What this episode covers

Joe Rogan and Michael Kosta cover the discipline of writing comedy and honoring 'the muse,' then spend a long stretch breaking down combat sports highlights (Deontay Wilder, Alex Pereira, Jon Jones, leg-lock specialist Paul Harris) versus the lower stakes of tennis. They detour into Texas barbecue, the Austin comedy scene and Rogan's Comedy Mothership club, Lenny Bruce and free-speech history, and the toll of city life in Brooklyn. The back half turns to health optimization (sauna, cold plunge, nootropics, creatine, sleep) and a heavy speculative discussion about AI, quantum computing, deepfakes, and the future obsolescence of humans. Kosta repeatedly ties his tennis background to the solitary problem-solving of stand-up, the throughline of his book.

Recommended on this episode

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The War of Art

Steven Pressfield

“we have a stack of them out there give you a copy of it”
“do you ever read uh pressfield's war of art no it's really we have a stack of them out there give you a copy of it it's a small book easy read”— Joe Rogan
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Neuro Gum

Neuro

“which I'm a big fan of I chew it all the time”
“they make neuro gum which I'm a big fan of I chew it all the time it's gum that has like a little bit of caffeine a little bit of theanine in it”— Joe Rogan
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ThinkPad

Lenovo

“thinkpads have the best keyboards”
“so I use a ThinkPad and thinkpads have the best keyboards they have travel each one has like a couple of millimeters of travel so it's clickity clickity click”— Michael Kosta
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The Hustler

Robert Rossen

“the only answer to that question is the Hustler ... the Hustler is just an amazing film”
“what's your favorite Pool movie bil hler The Hustler the only answer to that question is the Hustler ... the Hustler is just an amazing film”— Joe Rogan

The guest's own work

BookBy the guest

Lucky Loser

Michael Kosta

“the new book that's out right now lucky loser is all about how I'm now embracing this tennis because it gave me all the skills to actually be good in comedy”— Michael Kosta
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Alpha Brain

Onnit

“I take alphab brain which is a um it's called a neutop ... that stuff's legit it really works and it really we that was from my company”— Joe Rogan

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Naked Pictures of Famous People

Jon Stewart

“I think I remember one of his books was called naked pictures of famous people which which is great he's a solid guy”— Michael Kosta
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Power Metals

Vince Beiser

“I just read this crazy book called Power Metals by Vince Biser possibly we had him on the show Daily Show and it's all about like minerals and metals”— Michael Kosta
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Neuro Mints

Neuro

“these are mints neuro mints but they make neuro gum which I'm a big fan of I chew it all the time”— Joe Rogan
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Neuro1

Bill Romanowski / Nuro

“there's a company called nuro one and uh Bill Romanowski the football player developed it because he was having memory problems”— Joe Rogan
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TruBrain

TruBrain

“true brain is another one that I've tried it's really good it's like little packets you drink”— Joe Rogan
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The Color of Money

Martin Scorsese

“I thought The Color of Money had a had a run it's it's okay the color of money is good it's a good tournament movie”— Michael Kosta
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Dark Days

Marc Singer

“did you ever see that movie Dark Days about the people that lived in the subway tunnels oh yeah that's a wild mie”— Joe Rogan
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Rats: Night of Terror

Bruno Mattei

“I put on screen on accident before rats night of Terror 198 ... it was a goofy ass looks hilarious”— Jamie
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Rats (Netflix documentary)

Morgan Spurlock

“have you seen the documentary on Netflix I don't know rats ... it talks about how many rats there are in New York City eight per person”— Joe Rogan

Big reveals from this episode

  • Kosta quit a $31,000 tennis-coaching job at Michigan to start comedy, making only ~$6,000 his first year.
  • Kosta frames his whole new book, Lucky Loser, around embracing tennis as the foundation of his comedy.
  • Rogan recounts being TKO'd in a kickboxing fight where a left hook simply switched his legs off while he stayed fully conscious.
  • Rogan plugs Alpha Brain and points Kosta to a free vending machine of his own Onnit supplements in the studio.
  • Rogan claims Lyme disease was likely weaponized and leaked from Plum Island lab, citing RFK Jr.
  • Kosta says his family's winter coats were stolen from his Brooklyn hallway, and he later bought his own coat back off Poshmark.
  • Rogan predicts humans may become obsolete as we 'willingly' give birth to superior AI.

Worth remembering

  • Texas brisket tradition traces to German immigrants around Fredericksburg who slow-cooked a cheap throwaway cut.
  • Deontay Wilder had roughly 39 knockouts in 40 fights despite being undersized for heavyweight (209 lbs vs Fury's 260).
  • A heel hook is so dangerous because the knee has almost no strength side-to-side, letting specialists twist it apart.
  • During a USA-Canada hockey game, a whole country's water usage spiked at every period break as everyone hit the bathroom.
  • Rogan says creatine is not just a muscle builder but a nootropic that also aids brain function and hydration.
  • Finnish studies link using a sauna four times a week over 20 years to a 40% drop in all-cause mortality.
  • Cold plunging can raise dopamine by about 250%, with effects lasting hours.
  • Rogan cites a Marc Andreessen claim that quantum computing solved a problem the entire universe-as-computer couldn't before heat death.
  • New York car wires are sometimes made with soy, so rats chew through them mistaking them for food.
  • Cigarette filters are made of cellulose acetate plastic that can take up to 10 years to break down and leaches toxins.