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Joe Rogan Experience #2298 - Kurt Metzger

Joe Rogan and Kurt Metzger riff for 2.5 hours on deep-state conspiracies, eugenics, regime change, paid protesters, and aliens.

Joe Rogan Experience #2298 - Kurt Metzger
The guest

Kurt Metzger: Stand-up comedian and writer known for his work on Inside Amy Schumer and as a regular sidekick on The Jimmy Dore Show. He grew up a Jehovah's Witness and is known for combative, conspiracy-tinged political commentary.

What this episode covers

This is a sprawling, free-associating conversation with almost no central topic. Metzger and Rogan jump from meme-coin scams and Social Security to CIA regime-change operations, the JFK assassination, and the history of eugenics. Long stretches cover supposedly paid/organized anti-Tesla protests, USAID and Taliban payments, deported pro-Palestinian students, and the idea that gangs, crack, and the school system were engineered. Lighter tangents include the history of court dwarfs, the Nazi-killed Wizard of Oz dwarves, a giant French butt-plug sculpture, Neanderthals, and ancient-alien lore. It closes on fluoride, soda companies funding health organizations, and welfare myths.

Recommended on this episode

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Trance Formation of America

Cathy O'Brien

“go back and again on audible, go back and listen to it because it's amazing”
“think Kathy O'Brien's book... I would go back and again on audible, go back and listen to it because it's amazing how much of this stuff correlates to stuff right now”— Kurt Metzger

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Tragedy and Hope

Carroll Quigley

“my rabbi Richard Grove, who sent me Tragedy and Hope, a book that gives you the skeleton of the what the conspiracy is”— Kurt Metzger
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Egyptian Magic

E. A. Wallis Budge

“he did a thing about this Wallace Budge book called, uh Egyptian Black Magic from 1910. Wallace Budge apparently is like the real Indiana Jones”— Kurt Metzger
BookReferencedISBN verified

War Is a Racket

Smedley Butler

“the guy who wrote uh wars a racket when the when the veterans Butler”— Kurt Metzger
MediaReferenced

Am I Racist?

Matt Walsh

“did you see Am I Racist? No, but [ __ ] hilarious... he's a fake academic who's talking to her... he gets her to say the most ridiculous”— Kurt Metzger
MediaReferenced

What Is a Woman?

Matt Walsh

“the lady with the colored hair that he kept asking about uh that was what is a woman not the not that's a totally different documentary”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

JFK

Oliver Stone

“Oliver Stone who directed JFK said he's seen a secondary copy of the film and that NBC has been sitting on it”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

The Wizard of Oz

Victor Fleming

“when they did the original um version of uh The Wizard of Oz, they couldn't get dwarves because they'd all been killed by the Nazis”— Kurt Metzger
MediaReferenced

The King's Man

Matthew Vaughn

“If you ever see the king's man the prequel of Kingsman... They show it in the beginning. There's black and white people in there.”— Kurt Metzger
ProductReferenced

White Claw

White Claw

“Did you just crack open your second White Claw? No, there's a Three Claw podcast.”— Joe Rogan

Big reveals from this episode

  • Kurt wears 'Shirts for Kurts' tees naming classified ops like Timber Sycamore, the CIA program to arm Syrian rebels against Assad.
  • Claims Oliver Stone says NBC is sitting on a hidden secondary copy of JFK assassination film footage.
  • Plays audio of Florida GOP candidate William Braddock allegedly threatening a Russian-Ukrainian hit squad against rival Anna Paulina Luna.
  • Kurt details his Jehovah's Witness upbringing and the church's record sex-abuse settlement, comparing in-house cover-ups to the Catholic Church and Epstein.
  • Both assert the CIA helped create American street gangs and flooded inner cities with crack and guns to fuel private prisons.
  • Extended argument that anti-Tesla protests are paid and centrally organized, citing chant sheets and protesters leaving exactly at noon.
  • Discusses drone whistleblower Daniel Hale, jailed 45 months for leaking that ~90% of drone-strike casualties were civilians.
  • Reagan's famous 'welfare queen' story is shown to be a gross exaggeration of a minor fraud case.

Worth remembering

  • Eugenics originated in America and England before the Nazis adopted it.
  • Some Wizard of Oz Munchkins were European little-person actors brought to the US, escaping Nazi persecution.
  • Court dwarf Jeffrey Hudson (1619-1682) was served to a queen baked inside a giant pie and later killed a man in a duel.
  • Cecil Rhodes founded both apartheid policy and took over the De Beers diamond name.
  • Claim that the modern school system descends from a Prussian effort to condition soldiers who would kill in war.
  • Audi's predecessor, Auto Union, used concentration-camp labor and built seven labor camps for the SS.
  • Theory that the 1982 Tylenol cyanide poisonings may have been corporate sabotage by a Bayer-linked competitor.
  • The original US Pledge of Allegiance used the straight-arm 'Bellamy salute,' changed to hand-over-heart during WWII; 'under God' added in the 1950s.
  • Coca-Cola sponsored 95 national health organizations and PepsiCo sponsored 13 before several dropped the contracts around 2015.