The guest
Iliza Shlesinger: Stand-up comedian and author, promoting her essay collection 'All Things Aside' and Netflix special 'Hot Forever', both out October 11th.
What this episode covers
Joe Rogan and Iliza Shlesinger range across a long, freewheeling conversation touching on the gendered danger of online outrage, cancel culture as 'sport,' and how women face physical threats men don't when they voice opinions. They dig into abortion as a political and economic football, Biden's marijuana pardons, his apparent cognitive decline, and the corruption of figures like Putin. Iliza riffs on the addictive, surveillance-driven nature of TikTok and the commodification of nostalgia, while both lament the loss of objective journalism. They cover the toxicity of pharma and consumer products (Johnson & Johnson, semaglutide), American manufacturing and grim factory conditions at Foxconn, and the unattainable beauty standards pushed by the Kardashians and the modeling industry.
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Origin
“one of the companies I work with is origin... they're trying to make the best stuff they can with what we have here”
“one of the companies I work with is origin it's a company that's trying to bring back American manufacturing clothes and they make shoes”— Joe Rogan
The guest's own work
BookBy the guest
All Things Aside: Absolutely Correct Opinions
Iliza Shlesinger
“my book All Things aside absolutely correct opinions collection of personal essays is out on October 11th”— Iliza Shlesinger
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Red Notice
Bill Browder
“I read red notice I don't know if you read this book Bill Brower did you read this book red notice and it's about”— Iliza Shlesinger
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Toxic Beauty
“there's like a bunch of them but this is the one what's it called it's called I'll tell you right now it's called hold on toxic Beauty”— Iliza Shlesinger
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The Canterbury Tales
Geoffrey Chaucer
“did you ever read the Canterbury Tales no one of the characters I want to say it was the priorist who was this like very Pious holy woman”— Iliza Shlesinger
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Biotin
“you can take biotin biotin you know but like I take biotin I'm never gonna have like lustrous pony hair”— Iliza Shlesinger
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NyQuil
“why is there no CVS why can I not buy NyQuil I think I'm too programmed as an American to have everything when I need it”— Iliza Shlesinger
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Tums
“as a pregnant woman went without any heartburn medicine and I had to find like some special heartburn thing there because they don't have Tums”— Iliza Shlesinger
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iPhone
Apple
“I want to know how much cheaper how much more would I have to pay for an iPhone if they made it in Ohio”— Joe Rogan
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Semaglutide
“it's called I I believe this is what it's called looking it up uh semi-glue tied is yeah the uh actual drug”— Iliza Shlesinger
Big reveals from this episode
- Iliza recounts her husband being left for five hours in a Swedish ER while she was pregnant, contrasting US vs European healthcare access.
- Both describe receiving fake/real shots from audience members on stage and the danger of drinks being drugged.
- Joe says a Babylon Bee CEO told him life begins at conception; they argue abortion bans are economically/politically motivated, not religious.
- Joe insists Biden has clear cognitive decline/dementia, citing him calling for a dead congresswoman 'Jackie'.
- They claim TikTok is essentially Chinese spyware that accesses data on disconnected devices.
- Joe explains Foxconn put nets around iPhone factory buildings because so many workers jumped to their deaths.
- They discuss a former FBI specialist's estimate that up to 80% of Twitter accounts may be bots, around Elon Musk's acquisition.
Worth remembering
- Iliza claims there are only about three In-N-Out locations practically reachable in LA due to enormous lines.
- The band Lady Antebellum changed its name to Lady A because 'antebellum' refers to the pre-Civil War slavery-era South.
- The 1989 Montreal Massacre is cited as an early mass shooting driven by hatred of women.
- Tulsi Gabbard called out Kamala Harris for keeping people jailed past release dates to use as cheap labor fighting wildfires.
- China's social credit system can restrict citizens' bank access and travel for unfavorable opinions.
- North Korea is said to have run a propaganda program called 'let's all eat one meal a day' and punishes escapees across three generations.
- Historically, fatness signaled wealth, and women fainted from whalebone corsets, prompting the invention of fainting couches.
- Coco Chanel popularized tanning after returning from the French Riviera; before that a tan signaled field labor.
- The earliest medical description of anorexia is credited to English physician Richard Morton in 1689.
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