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Tim Ferriss · 2022-10-11

Insights from Tara Brach, Ryan Holiday, Maria Popova, and Cal Newport | The Tim Ferriss Show

A curated podcast buffet where four friends of Tim Ferriss share favorite clips on presence, Stoic questions, reading, and time management.

Insights from Tara Brach, Ryan Holiday, Maria Popova, and Cal Newport | The Tim Ferriss Show
The guest

Tara Brach, Ryan Holiday, Maria Popova, and Cal Newport: A compilation episode hosted by Tim Ferriss featuring four guests: Tara Brach (meditation teacher and former clinical psychologist, author of Radical Acceptance, creator of the RAIN practice); Ryan Holiday (author of 13 books and creator of the Daily Stoic); Maria Popova (writer behind The Marginalian, formerly Brain Pickings); and Cal Newport (Georgetown CS professor and author of Deep Work and Digital Minimalism).

What this episode covers

This is an experimental compilation format where Tim Ferriss asks friends to send a favorite 15-30 minute clip from their own podcasts so he can share them with listeners. Tara Brach teaches the trance of unworthiness and her RAIN meditation (Recognize, Allow, Investigate, Nurture), illustrated with the golden Buddha statue covered in clay. Ryan Holiday rapid-fires a series of life-shaping questions drawn from Stoic philosophers and other thinkers. Maria Popova details her highly disciplined daily routine, sleep philosophy, and analog note-taking and indexing system for reading. Cal Newport delivers a deep dive on time management built around three C's: capture, configure, and control, plus a bonus principle of constraint.

Recommended on this episode

BookRecommendedISBN verified

The Gift of Fear

Gavin de Becker

“One of my favorite books is The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker”
“One of my favorite books is The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker. And he says, 'When you worry, ask yourself, what am I choosing not to see right now?'”— Ryan Holiday
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Man's Search for Meaning

Viktor Frankl

“who wrote the amazing book Man's Search for Meaning”
“Comes to us from Victor Frankl, who survived the Holocaust, who wrote the amazing book Man's Search for Meaning.”— Ryan Holiday
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On the Shortness of Life

Seneca

“So good. Which is perhaps the best manifesto for our current struggle”
“Revisited his The Shortness of Life. So good. Which is perhaps the best manifesto for our current struggle with this very notion of productivity versus presence.”— Tim Ferriss

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

Radical Acceptance

Tara Brach

“I'm also author of several books including Radical Acceptance and Trusting the Gold.”— Tara Brach
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Trusting the Gold

Tara Brach

“I'm also author of several books including Radical Acceptance and Trusting the Gold.”— Tara Brach
MediaBy the guest

Tara Brach (podcast)

Tara Brach

“My weekly podcast of talks and guided meditations, which goes by my name, draws on Buddhism, psychology, and science.”— Tara Brach
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Discipline Is Destiny: The Power of Self-Control

Ryan Holiday

“Also, you can check out my new book Discipline is Destiny, The Power of Self-Control, which is out now and you can buy anywhere books are sold.”— Ryan Holiday
MediaBy the guest

The Daily Stoic

Ryan Holiday

“Hi, I'm Ryan Holiday, the author of 13 best-selling books and the creator of the Daily Stoic.”— Ryan Holiday
BookBy the guest

Figuring

Maria Popova

“She is the author also of Figuring and the editor of A Velocity of Being, subtitled Letters to a Young Reader.”— Tim Ferriss
BookBy the guestISBN verified

A Velocity of Being: Letters to a Young Reader

Maria Popova

“She is the author also of Figuring and the editor of A Velocity of Being, subtitled Letters to a Young Reader.”— Tim Ferriss
MediaBy the guest

The Marginalian

Maria Popova

“Her website is The Marginalian, formerly known as Brain Pickings, and it is included in the Library of Congress permanent web archive.”— Tim Ferriss
MediaBy the guest

Literary Jukebox

Maria Popova

“I have a little sort of labor of love side project called literary jukebox.”— Maria Popova
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Deep Work

Cal Newport

“Now, you might know me from some of my recent books, such as Deep Work, Digital Minimalism, and A World Without Email.”— Cal Newport
BookBy the guestISBN verified

Digital Minimalism

Cal Newport

“Now, you might know me from some of my recent books, such as Deep Work, Digital Minimalism, and A World Without Email.”— Cal Newport
BookBy the guestISBN verified

A World Without Email

Cal Newport

“Now, you might know me from some of my recent books, such as Deep Work, Digital Minimalism, and A World Without Email.”— Cal Newport
MediaBy the guest

Deep Questions with Cal Newport

Cal Newport

“The clip you're about to hear comes from my podcast, Deep Questions with Cal Newport.”— Cal Newport
ProductBy the guest

Time Block Planner

Cal Newport

“I have my Time Block Planner. I am in a lucky situation where I was able to design and publish my own planner.”— Cal Newport

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

ProductReferenced

Kindle app

Amazon

“Well, I prefer electronic, so I use the Kindle app on the iPad, or any PDF viewer, cuz I read a lot of archival stuff.”— Maria Popova
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iPad

Apple

“Well, I prefer electronic, so I use the Kindle app on the iPad, or any PDF viewer.”— Maria Popova
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Getting Things Done

David Allen

“David Allen and his seminal post-computer time management book... He had this idea of full capture, where he said all of your tasks should be in a trusted system.”— Cal Newport
ProductReferenced

Trello

Atlassian

“For capture, there is where I actually store the things I need to do and I use Trello, which is a task board software system.”— Cal Newport
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Google Docs

Google

“I use Google Docs to keep track of plans, the plans I have about various things.”— Cal Newport

Big reveals from this episode

  • Tara Brach introduces the RAIN meditation, an acronym for Recognize, Allow, Investigate, and Nurture, designed to dissolve the coverings over our true nature.
  • Maria Popova reveals that the meditation teacher who changed her life more than anyone is Tara Brach, whose free podcast meditations she discovered and uses daily.
  • Popova says she has listened to the exact same Tara Brach guided 'smile meditation' from the summer of 2010 every single day, on a broken 3G iPhone she uses as an iPod.
  • Popova describes her core reading hack: building an alternate index of key ideas (not keywords) on the blank last page of every analog book.
  • Tim Ferriss confesses he assumed Seneca was a Native American elder for a year or two before realizing he was a Roman, because the single name reminded him of Madonna or Sitting Bull.
  • Cal Newport frames any good time management system around three C's: capture, configure, and control.
  • Newport adds a bonus fourth principle, constraint: carefully controlling what gets onto your plate in the first place and using processes to reduce work's footprint.

Worth remembering

  • In 1950s Thailand a monk's flashlight revealed gold beneath cracks in a clay-covered statue, uncovering the largest solid gold Buddha in that part of Asia.
  • Tara Brach names the core wound behind the trance of unworthiness as 'I'm not lovable, I'm not loved, I'm not worthy.'
  • Carl Rogers said it was not until he accepted himself just as he was that he was free to change, the prerequisite for true transformation.
  • John Boyd taught his Pentagon mentees the choice 'to be or to do', to look important versus to quietly get things done.
  • Stephen Colbert lost his father and several siblings in a plane crash; his mother's question 'Can you look at this in the light of eternity?' shaped his perspective.
  • Maria Popova argues humans are nearly as impaired as if drunk when sleeping less than half the time they normally need.
  • Popova calls literature 'the original internet,' with citations and allusions functioning like hyperlinks to other works.
  • Cal Newport credits David Allen with the 'full capture' idea, which Allen adapted from a 1970s business thinker named Dean Acheson (not Truman's Secretary of State).
  • Newport's own system uses Trello for tasks, Google Docs for plans, his Time Block Planner, and a desktop file called workingmemory.txt.
  • Newport plans his time at three scales, for him semester (instead of quarterly), weekly, and daily, calling it multi-scale planning.