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Joe Rogan · 2024-11-02

Joe Rogan Experience #2222 - John Fetterman

Senator John Fetterman tells Joe Rogan about surviving a near-fatal stroke, his depression and recovery, and money's corrosive grip on politics.

Joe Rogan Experience #2222 - John Fetterman
The guest

John Fetterman: U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania, former mayor of Braddock and lieutenant governor, known for hoodies and blunt, plainspoken politics

What this episode covers

John Fetterman recounts the 2022 stroke that nearly killed him three days before his Senate primary, the pacemaker implant, and the auditory-processing issues that now require live captioning. He opens up candidly about a severe post-victory depression, checking himself into Walter Reed, and his message to others struggling with self-harm to 'stay in the game.' Much of the conversation centers on his core argument that unlimited money, born of Citizens United, is destroying American democracy by funding personal-destruction ad campaigns. He and Rogan have a long, civil debate over immigration, voter ID, border security, manufacturing, energy, AI-driven job loss, and food quality. Throughout, Fetterman positions himself as a pro-immigration but pro-secure-border pragmatist who values authenticity over political polish.

Recommended on this episode

ProductRecommended

Apple News

Apple

“I'm a big fan of Apple news”
“I'm a big fan of Apple news and it's like 13 bucks a month and but I read everything across the Spectrum”— John Fetterman

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Metallica

Metallica

“all of all the classics like you know Metallica Motorhead motohead uh the cult all those kinds of things”— John Fetterman
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Motorhead

Motorhead

“all the classics like you know Metallica Motorhead motohead uh the cult all those kinds of things”— John Fetterman
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The Cult

The Cult

“Metallica Motorhead motohead uh the cult all those kinds of things like I haven't lost any”— John Fetterman
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Def Leppard

Def Leppard

“the deaf DEA LEP and those things well and I I saw the the uh the record of whiter”— John Fetterman
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Whitesnake

Whitesnake

“I saw the the uh the record of whiter excuse me White Snake um but all those things yeah”— John Fetterman
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The Simpsons

Matt Groening

“are you a fan are you fan of The Simpsons yeah yeah but we we matched up perfectly with Dr Nick”— Joe Rogan
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Bulworth

Warren Beatty

“I referen a movie if you like a bullworth I remember that movie bullworth and you know it was Warren Beauty and he was a a senator”— John Fetterman
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Scarface

Brian De Palma

“it's that Scarface it's like you know word and balls you know I'm not going you know”— John Fetterman
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The West Wing

Aaron Sorkin

“we all have kinds of dialogue on West Wing you know like talking like you know kinds of turn”— John Fetterman
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Hacking Democracy

HBO

“do you remember the documentary hacking democracy did you ever see that it was about the the Republicans doing it”— Joe Rogan
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Ecto Cooler

Hi-C

“did you ever have uh like Ecto Cooler like that green like anifree kind of color of highy and some of the kinds of foods that we had when I was a kid”— John Fetterman

Big reveals from this episode

  • Fetterman reveals his heart effectively stopped and doctors gave him no certainty he would survive after the stroke.
  • Doctors implanted a pacemaker right before the primary to manage the AFib that damaged his heart.
  • He discloses checking himself into Walter Reed for depression during his first half-year in the Senate.
  • He admits his depression worsened after winning and that he reached a dark place involving thoughts of self-harm.
  • Roughly $100 million in paid media was spent attacking him; the race topped $330 million, most expensive Senate race in history.
  • Out of millions of 2020 Pennsylvania votes, only five or six fraud cases existed, and those were Republicans voting with dead relatives' names.
  • After serving as mayor 13 years, he fought the Nippon purchase of U.S. Steel from his rooftop and helped jam up the deal with the White House.
  • Fetterman credits following Sean Baker and carnivore-style eating with helping him personally lose weight.

Worth remembering

  • Fetterman says he dresses in hoodies and shorts partly because he is claustrophobic, can't afford custom suits, and has 'chopstick legs and no ass.'
  • The doctor who saved his life was usually based in Delaware and only happened to be at the hospital to give Fetterman an advocacy award.
  • He won all 67 Pennsylvania counties in his primary despite recovering from a stroke.
  • His campaign hammered opponent Dr. Oz for living in New Jersey, even getting Snooki to do a Cameo.
  • Trump won Pennsylvania in 2016 by about 45,000 votes by running up 80-20 'Romney margins' in red counties.
  • Fetterman cites the Golden Gate Bridge survivor who said he regretted jumping the instant he cleared the rail.
  • Fox News had to pay $800 million in defamation for false Dominion voting-machine fraud claims.
  • McDonald's fries in the UK have three ingredients while American versions contain many more.
  • Three Mile Island, which Fetterman evacuated as a child, is reopening so Microsoft can buy nuclear power for data centers.
  • Rogan describes a fully driverless car passing him and a Waymo traffic jam in Austin where robot cars clogged an intersection.