Aaron Rodgers: Four-time NFL MVP quarterback, formerly of the Green Bay Packers and New York Jets. Known publicly for his outspoken skepticism of vaccines and mainstream institutions, and his interest in psychedelics and alternative medicine.
What this episode covers
Rodgers and Rogan spend most of the episode trading anti-establishment views on health and politics, arguing that COVID vaccines were harmful, that cancer is a metabolic disease ignored by profit-driven medicine, and that childhood vaccine schedules are dangerous. They cite Suzanne Humphries' work to claim polio was largely caused by DDT and that diseases declined mainly from sanitation. The conversation ranges across UFO disclosure and the 'Age of Disclosure' documentary, ancient Egypt and lost-civilization theories, the Epstein and Diddy cases, JFK's assassination, and government mind-control programs. They praise Elon Musk and RFK Jr., criticize legacy media and socialized medicine, and discuss the resurgence of edgy comedy on Netflix and YouTube. The episode closes on education policy, inner-city poverty, AI-driven job loss, and universal basic income.
Recommended on this episode
Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History
Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk
“you got me onto her book. Yes. I read her book and then I read Bobby's book and her book's incredible. Her book is unbelievable”— Aaron Rodgers
Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties
Tom O'Neill
“I think they did it with the Manson family. And I don't think that stuff just ends at the Chaos book was awesome. Incredible. Great book.”— Aaron Rodgers
Icarus
Bryan Fogel (director)
“like like Icorus like the documentary, you know, amazing documentary. With the KGB was incredible. One of the greatest documentaries ever”— Joe Rogan
The Dissident
Bryan Fogel (director)
“It's very good, dude. It's very good. Right there. It's dark. 2020.”— Joe Rogan
Bad Thoughts
Tom Segura (creator)
“Have you seen Sigura's new Netflix series? It's so crazy. It's called Bad Thoughts. these short films essentially. they're [ __ ] ridiculous”— Aaron Rodgers
Also referenced (named, not recommended)
Kill Tony
Tony Hinchcliffe
“I was watching Kill Tony. Um who's the comic who played Elon? Uh Kyle Dunigan.”— Aaron Rodgers
Grizzly
American Snuff Company
“that has like actual glass in it? Probably Kodiak or Grizzly. One of those two.”— Joe Rogan
Tesla
Tesla, Inc.
“people driving Teslas, but they've either removed the emblem on the back or they have a sticker that says like an anti-musk Tesla group”— Aaron Rodgers
Starlink
SpaceX
“And the [ __ ] he does when there's natural disasters with Starlink. Oh yeah. He's revolutionizing space travel, revolutionizing satellite internet”— Joe Rogan
Grok
xAI
“but put it into Grock. Do we like Grock? Yeah, it's pretty good. I mean, I think all of them are dependent upon the information”— Joe Rogan
Ivermectin
(generic drug)
“Such a disservice to humankind by demonizing Ivormectin in order to push vaccines... Ivormectin is a fool's medication. Even today.”— Aaron Rodgers
Hydroxychloroquine
(generic drug)
“When I looked for fories that would prescribe um uh hydroxychloricquin and ivormectton, it was one pharmacy in Wisconsin”— Joe Rogan
Fenbendazole
(generic drug)
“Mil Gibson talking about Fenben and and Ivormekin. and that's what I've been in the weeds uh learning about the last year”— Aaron Rodgers
Big reveals from this episode
- Rodgers reveals he and Rogan talked about buying Epstein's island 'as is' and putting a JRE podcast studio in the temple.
- Rodgers says he has spent the past year 'in the weeds' researching cancer and alternative remedies because several people close to him got cancer.
- Both describe refusing or delaying vaccines for their own children and say friends got harassed for not vaccinating newborns.
- Rodgers cites a study claiming 470,000 to 670,000 American deaths from the COVID mRNA shots, more than WWI, WWII, and Vietnam combined.
- Rogan recounts treating his own COVID with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and monoclonal antibodies, sourced through one Wisconsin pharmacy 'on the down low.'
- Rogan jokes (and half-believes) leaded gasoline as a kid knocked his IQ down 'at least three or four points.'
- They mock Jill Biden's 'Dr.' title and Rogan jokes he wants an honorary doctorate to be called 'Dr. Rogan.'
- Rogan closes by reciting an Osho line: 'Democracy basically means government of the people, for the people, but the people are [expletive].'
Worth remembering
- Both debunk the rumor that smokeless tobacco contains fiberglass; ChatGPT/AI is mocked for repeating it as fact.
- Rodgers and Rogan both say they were invited to a 'feeder group' for Bohemian Grove and both declined.
- Rogan describes 'remote viewing guards' said to defend Area 51 in their astral bodies from other astral viewers.
- The 'Age of Disclosure' documentary reportedly features Christopher Mellon and many program insiders and could 'break the dam' on UFO disclosure.
- Rogan says he quit nicotine pouches for days with no withdrawal, but quitting coffee gives him a headache.
- They note the strongest nicotine pouch (the 'Pablo') has up to 50mg, versus the ~6mg/day they claim is the beneficial dose.
- More people watched the Tom Brady Roast on Netflix than any prior comedy event, marking a turning point away from 'woke' programming.
- In 'Icarus,' Russia's anti-doping head reveals the KGB swapped urine samples through a hole in the wall during the Sochi Olympics.
- They claim California now has roughly a 1-in-12 autism rate, up from a cited historical 1-in-10,000.
- They discuss Argentina's release of files on Nazis fleeing there, and claim Hitler had multiple body doubles.