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Joe Rogan · 2025-01-24

Joe Rogan Experience #2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon

Dr. Mark Gordon returns to argue brain inflammation drives PTSD, Alzheimer's and CTE, then he and Joe roam through aliens, bears and surveillance tech.

Joe Rogan Experience #2262 - Dr. Mark Gordon
The guest

Dr. Mark Gordon: Physician specializing in hormone replacement and neuroinflammation for traumatic brain injury and PTSD, founder of Millennium Health Centers. Known for treating veterans and his work with the Warrior Angels Foundation.

What this episode covers

Dr. Gordon lays out his core thesis that inflammation in the brain, not just pituitary damage, is the root cause of PTSD, CTE, Alzheimer's and other neurodegenerative diseases, and describes the neutraceutical and hormone protocols his clinic uses to reverse symptoms. He and Joe discuss the retracted fraudulent Alzheimer's amyloid-beta research, the case for psychedelics like ibogaine for brain injury and addiction, and the importance of supplementation as people age. The conversation then drifts far afield into bear biology and rewilding politics, dangerous birds, the three-fingered 'alien' mummies found in Peru, UFOs and consciousness, and finally digital surveillance and phone privacy. Gordon, at 72, frames his own vitality as proof that aggressive hormone and supplement use keeps the brain and body functioning into old age.

The guest's own work

ProductBy the guest

Alpha Brain

Onnit

“products like you have like alphab brain you know has an effect on improving mitochondrial function and that's what you want to do that's a key”— Dr. Mark Gordon
ProductBy the guest

Millennium Health Centers neutraceutical (glutathione)

Millennium Health Centers (Dr. Mark Gordon)

“that's our product and that is our core product for uh fixing the guys with the TBI”— Dr. Mark Gordon
ProductBy the guest

Biohack Yourself

Anthony & Teresa Lolli (Lolli Group)

“this is biohack yourself... which has been picked up by uh Robert F Kennedy Jr as being their representative for media”— Dr. Mark Gordon

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Diamox (acetazolamide)

Bausch & Lomb

“I gave her Diamox so that she can acate oxygen Diamox is the tablet you take to boost your... acclimate at altitude”— Dr. Mark Gordon
ProductReferenced

Google Pixel 9 Pro XL

Google

“Google just gave me the new pixel 9 XL Pro it looks sick and then they gave me the pixel fold as like a gift”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Google Pixel Fold

Google

“they gave me the pixel fold as like a gift when I went to the inauguration thing yeah it's pretty SI... the fold seems crazy”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Huawei trifold phone (Mate XT)

Huawei

“Huawei has developed a three-fold and apparently Samsung's going to come out with one next year... it literally comes out to like a 10-in tablet”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

GrapheneOS

GrapheneOS

“that's it graphine OS so graphine is deg Googled phone so they take these pixels and they degoogle them”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Unplugged phone

Unplugged

“then you have another phone called the unplugged phone that uh pixel 7... they don't have 5G”— Joe Rogan
BookReferencedISBN verified

Abducted: How People Come to Believe They Were Kidnapped by Aliens

John E. Mack

“I've read abducted which is John Max book and you know I I I'm aware of the Betty and Barney Hill story”— Joe Rogan
BookReferencedISBN verified

Communion

Whitley Strieber

“the Whitley striber movie communion... Whitley striber is also a fiction writer and he wrote this book about his own personal experiences with aliens”— Joe Rogan

Big reveals from this episode

  • Gordon claims his protocol put a sixth multiple sclerosis case into total remission in 90 days.
  • Says 95% of Alzheimer's cases appear to be driven by trauma and aging, only about 5% genetic.
  • Discusses that roughly 70% of published science fails to reproduce, even by the original authors.
  • Details the retracted landmark amyloid-beta paper, alleging falsified images across 132 of one researcher's papers backed by a $2.6B budget.
  • Reports boxer Gerald McClellan improved ~20% in four months on his hormone and peptide protocol.
  • Claims a 76-year-old veteran's prostate cancer (Gleason 7) became undetectable after ivermectin/fenbendazole, PSA dropping from 12.6 to 5.3.
  • Gordon says he was sick only 16 days in 23 years and beat a positive COVID test in 12 hours.

Worth remembering

  • Quercetin acts as an ionophore that carries zinc into cells, with antiviral and anti-Alzheimer's effects; PQQ is described as 100-1000x stronger than CoQ10 for mitochondria.
  • Ibogaine reportedly cures addiction in ~80% of cases in one session, rising to 93-97% with two sessions.
  • Nations once fought 'guano wars' over bat and bird droppings, which became a base for fertilizer, lipstick and eyeliner.
  • Amazonian 'Terra Preta' dark soil was man-made thousands of years ago by a process scientists still cannot replicate.
  • Black bears are the number-one source of trichinosis infections in America.
  • New Jersey has the highest per-capita black bear population; a recent state-record bear field-dressed at 770 lbs.
  • The cassowary is considered the most dangerous bird in the world, able to eviscerate a human with one kick.
  • Terror birds (Phorusrhacids) stood up to ~10 feet tall and one form may have survived until roughly 6,000 years ago.
  • Wi-Fi waveforms combined with AI can reconstruct 3D images of people moving inside a room.