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Tim Ferriss · 2020-06-24

Tribe of Mentors — Naval Ravikant, Susan Cain, and Yuval Noah Harari | The Tim Ferriss Show

Tim Ferriss introduces Tribe of Mentors, then shares profiles of Naval Ravikant, Susan Cain, and Yuval Noah Harari.

Tribe of Mentors — Naval Ravikant, Susan Cain, and Yuval Noah Harari | The Tim Ferriss Show
The guest

Naval Ravikant, Susan Cain, and Yuval Noah Harari: A compilation of three Tribe of Mentors profiles. Naval Ravikant is CEO and co-founder of AngelList and a prolific angel investor; Susan Cain is the bestselling author of Quiet and co-founder of Quiet Revolution; Yuval Noah Harari is a historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and author of Sapiens and Homo Deus.

What this episode covers

Tim Ferriss opens by explaining how Tribe of Mentors was born from the reframing question 'What would this look like if it were easy?' during his fortieth-birthday reassessment, and walks through the 11 core questions he sent to more than 100 top performers and why each one works. The episode then presents three full profiles, narrated by professional readers. Naval Ravikant shares his philosophy on desire, suffering, happiness as a skill, and saying no to nearly everything. Susan Cain recounts leaving corporate law to become a writer, her seven-year investment in writing Quiet, and her love of sad minor-key music. Yuval Noah Harari discusses Brave New World, the obsolescence of traditional education, the need for lifelong reinvention, and how a Vipassana meditation retreat transformed his self-understanding and made his books possible.

Recommended on this episode

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Total Freedom

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“the spiritual book that I keep returning to”
“total freedom by Jiddu Krishnamurti a rationalist guide to the perils of the human mind the spiritual book that I keep returning to”— Naval Ravikant
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Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

Yuval Noah Harari

“observations frameworks and mental models that will have you looking at history in your fellow humans differently”
“sapiens by you've all know aa Harare a history of the human species with observations frameworks and mental models that will have you looking at history differently”— Naval Ravikant
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Genome

Matt Ridley

“they're all great”
“everything by Matt Ridley matt is a scientist optimist and forward thinker genome the Red Queen the origins of virtue the rational optimist they're all great”— Naval Ravikant
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The Red Queen

Matt Ridley

“they're all great”
“genome the Red Queen the origins of virtue the rational optimist they're all great”— Naval Ravikant
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The Origins of Virtue

Matt Ridley

“they're all great”
“genome the Red Queen the origins of virtue the rational optimist they're all great”— Naval Ravikant
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The Rational Optimist

Matt Ridley

“they're all great”
“genome the Red Queen the origins of virtue the rational optimist they're all great”— Naval Ravikant
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Dance Me to the End of Love

Leonard Cohen

“Leonard Cohen is my patron saint try dance me to the end of love”
“Leonard Cohen is my patron saint try dance me to the end of love or famous blue raincoat or pretty much anything else he's ever written”— Susan Cain
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Famous Blue Raincoat

Leonard Cohen

“Leonard Cohen is my patron saint try dance me to the end of love or famous blue raincoat”
“try dance me to the end of love or famous blue raincoat or pretty much anything else he's ever written including of course hallelujah”— Susan Cain
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Hallelujah

Leonard Cohen

“pretty much anything else he's ever written including of course hallelujah”
“or pretty much anything else he's ever written including of course hallelujah his best-known song but really only the tip of the Leonard iceberg”— Susan Cain
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Hinech Yafah (You Are Beautiful)

Etti Ankri

“it's a gorgeous song of longing for the beloved but really it's about longing in general”
“also hinako feh you are beautiful by edon oh hell it's a gorgeous song of longing for the beloved”— Susan Cain
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The music of Cesaria Evora

Cesaria Evora

“try the music of mod radio sources Aria Evora”
“try the music of mod radio sources Aria Evora my next book is sort of on this topic”— Susan Cain
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Brave New World

Aldous Huxley

“I think it is the most prophetic book of the 20th century and the most profound discussion of happiness in modern Western philosophy”
“Aldous Huxley's brave new world I think it is the most prophetic book of the 20th century and the most profound discussion of happiness in modern Western philosophy”— Yuval Noah Harari

The guest's own work

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Tribe of Mentors

Tim Ferriss

“thousands of you have asked for years for the audio book versions of tools of titans and tribal mentors and they are now both finally available”— Tim Ferriss
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Tools of Titans

Tim Ferriss

“thousands of you have asked for years for the audio book versions of tools of titans and tribal mentors and they are now both finally available”— Tim Ferriss
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The 4-Hour Workweek

Tim Ferriss

“within a matter of weeks I turned 40 my first book 4-hour workweek had its tenth anniversary”— Tim Ferriss
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Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking

Susan Cain

“the author of the bestsellers quiet power the secret strengths of introverted kids and quiet the power of introverts in a world that can't stop talking”— Tim Ferriss
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Quiet Power: The Secret Strengths of Introverted Kids

Susan Cain

“the author of the bestsellers quiet power the secret strengths of introverted kids and quiet the power of introverts”— Tim Ferriss
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Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

Yuval Noah Harari

“you've all know a Harare is the author of the international bestseller sapiens a brief history of humankind and homo Deus a brief history of tomorrow”— Tim Ferriss
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Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow

Yuval Noah Harari

“the author of the international bestseller sapiens a brief history of humankind and homo Deus a brief history of tomorrow”— Tim Ferriss

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Mort

Terry Pratchett

“do you know what happens to lads who ask too many questions Mort thought for a moment no he said terry pratchett in Mort”— Tim Ferriss
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The Unbearable Lightness of Being

Milan Kundera

“Milan Kundera author of The Unbearable Lightness of being has said that the stupidity of people comes from having an answer for everything”— Tim Ferriss
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Man's Search for Meaning

Viktor Frankl

“here are a few books of many that came up a lot in this book man's search for meaning by victory Frankel”— Tim Ferriss
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The Rational Optimist

Matt Ridley

“man's search for meaning by victory Frankel the rational optimist by Matt Ridley the better angels of our nature by Steven Pinker”— Tim Ferriss
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The Better Angels of Our Nature

Steven Pinker

“the rational optimist by Matt Ridley the better angels of our nature by Steven Pinker sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari”— Tim Ferriss
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Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

Yuval Noah Harari

“the better angels of our nature by Steven Pinker sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari poor Charlie's Almanac by Charlie Munger”— Tim Ferriss
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Poor Charlie's Almanack

Charlie Munger

“sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari poor Charlie's Almanac by Charlie Munger if you'd like to see all of the recommended books in one place”— Tim Ferriss
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Modernist Cuisine

Chris Young

“I was first asked this when interviewed by my friend Chris young scientist co-author of modernist cuisine and CEO of chefsteps”— Tim Ferriss
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Wild

Cheryl Strayed

“sample answer from Cheryl Strayed best-selling author of wild here's my whole theory of the sandwich”— Tim Ferriss
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1984

George Orwell

“Allah Orwell's 1984 indeed Huxley's genius consists in showing that you could control people far more securely through love and pleasure”— Yuval Noah Harari

Big reveals from this episode

  • Ferriss reveals that 2017 was an unusual year in which he turned 40, his first book had its tenth anniversary, several friends died, and he publicly spoke about narrowly avoiding suicide in college.
  • The whole book sprang from one reframing question Ferriss asks himself: 'What would this look like if it were easy?'
  • Naval Ravikant defines suffering as a moment of clarity that forces uncomfortable change, listing how being poor, losing faith in elders, and almost marrying the wrong person each set up later success.
  • Naval's billboard: 'Desire is a contract that you make with yourself to be unhappy until you get what you want.'
  • Susan Cain describes bursting into tears when told she wouldn't be put up for partner, then leaving Wall Street law that afternoon and starting to write that very evening.
  • Harari's favorite failure: Sapiens was rejected by every English publisher and sold only a couple hundred copies when self-published, until he relied on professional experts.
  • Harari calls a 10-day Vipassana meditation retreat the best investment of time he ever made, saying he learned more about himself in those ten days than in his whole life before.
  • Harari realized through meditation that he was 'not the CEO' of his own mind but 'barely the gatekeeper,' unable to observe his breath for more than 10 seconds without his mind wandering.

Worth remembering

  • The Tim Ferriss Show was the first business interview podcast to pass 100 million downloads and at recording had 400 to 500 million downloads.
  • Ferriss explains he asks 'most gifted book' rather than 'favorite book' because favorites get quoted in articles and Wikipedia, making interviewees cautious.
  • Amelia Boone's $450 entry fee for the first World's Toughest Mudder led to her becoming a four-time obstacle-racing world champion.
  • Susan Cain's book Quiet has been translated into 40 languages and her TED talk has been viewed more than 17 million times, named by Bill Gates as a favorite.
  • Susan Cain invested seven years writing Quiet, scrapping a 'crappy' first draft after two years and starting from scratch.
  • Cain's favorite word is 'saudade,' a Portuguese word meaning a sweet longing for a beloved thing or person that will likely never return.
  • Harari calls Aldous Huxley's Brave New World (written 1931) the most prophetic book of the 20th century, arguing people can be controlled more securely through love and pleasure than violence and fear.
  • Harari predicts most of what students learn in school will be irrelevant by age 40, urging focus on personal resilience and emotional intelligence.
  • Harari warns we now live in 'the era of hacking humans,' where Google, Facebook, Amazon, and governments use big data to know you better than you know yourself.
  • Harari practices Vipassana for two hours daily and takes a one-to-two-month retreat each year, crediting it for enabling him to write Sapiens and Homo Deus.