The guest
Tulsi Gabbard: Former Democratic Congresswoman from Hawaii, Army veteran, 2020 presidential candidate, and author who left the Democratic Party.
What this episode covers
Joe Rogan and Tulsi Gabbard open with cold-plunge and sauna talk before pivoting to the DEA's rescheduling of marijuana and the suppressed history of hemp as a commodity. The bulk of the conversation is a sweeping critique of government overreach: the TikTok ban, FISA Section 702 surveillance, FBI tracking of January 6th attendees, and the Biden administration pressuring Big Tech to censor speech. They discuss social media's harm to youth, foreign influence operations, campus radicalization around Israel-Palestine, and data privacy across Apple, Samsung, and secure phones like Erik Prince's Unplugged. Gabbard closes with an emotional account of the Maui wildfire aftermath, the $700 FEMA payment, and a plea against the Biden-Harris administration tied to her book For Love of Country.
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Big reveals from this episode
- The DEA officially moved to reschedule marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III.
- Rogan recounts how William Randolph Hearst and Harry Anslinger killed hemp as a commodity to protect paper/timber interests, inventing the term 'marijuana'.
- Gabbard says the FBI knocked on her friend's door in rural Hawaii years after he took his son to the Capitol on January 6th, by tracking cell-phone pings.
- Discussion of the Michigan governor kidnapping plot where many of those involved were FBI informants.
- Twitter Files revelations that the government pressured Twitter to silence Harvard and Stanford experts on medical topics.
- The federal government's response to displaced Maui fire victims was a one-time $700 payment.
- Maui's emergency response chief Herman Andaya was off-island at a FEMA conference during the fire and exchanged 'LOL' texts about it before resigning.
- Gabbard urges people to leave the Democratic Party, saying the Biden-Harris administration cannot be allowed to remain in power.
Worth remembering
- The word 'canvas' derives from 'cannabis' because painters' canvas was originally made from hemp.
- The first draft of the Declaration of Independence was written on hemp.
- Game warden John Norris's team got into shootouts with cartels running illegal marijuana grows on California public land.
- Per Rogan's guest John, ~90% of marijuana sold in states where it's illegal comes from cartel grows, many on California public land.
- A global study found 90% of all large fish have disappeared from the world's oceans over the past half century.
- A survey found 87% of US teens have an iPhone and 88% expect their next phone to be an iPhone.
- Samsung's 'moonshot' camera feature was exposed as AI-generated detail when users photographed a blurry moon image on a monitor.
- Signal received roughly $3 million from the US-government-backed Open Technology Fund, an asset tied to Radio Free Asia.
- Apple takes a 30% cut of App Store purchases and holds more money than many countries.
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