Heights founder Dan Murray-Serter on overcoming depression, burnout, anxiety and insomnia, ayahuasca, and building a brain-care brand.

Dan Murray-Serter: Entrepreneur and co-founder of the brain-care supplement brand Heights, host of the Secret Leaders podcast, previously founder of the fashion app Grabble.
Dan Murray-Serter walks Steven Bartlett through his sequence of mental health struggles: a buried teenage bulimia, depression after his father's death, burnout while running his failed startup Grabble, and six months of anxiety-driven insomnia. He describes how repeated ayahuasca ceremonies reshaped his beliefs, cured his depression and removed his fear of death, and how a dietitian's omega-3, B-vitamin and blueberry-extract advice cured his insomnia and inspired him to start Heights. The conversation ranges over imposter syndrome, personal branding, scheduling habits to prevent burnout, and treating a marriage like a business with OKRs and habit trackers. They close on death, happiness versus fulfillment, and Dan's ideal dinner-party guests.
Christopher Ryan
“i told you about this book sex at dawn i highly recommend you read it so i had been telling myself the story”— Dan Murray-Serter
Marcus Aurelius
“marcus aurelius i would say one big fan of meditations ... i read it again every year it takes like an hour to read”— Dan Murray-Serter
Alex Soojung-Kim Pang
“i read an amazing book called rest by alex song yam ping i think his name is um brilliant book much better than why we sleep”— Dan Murray-Serter
Heights
“we launched january the 6th in a pandemic well not in a pandemic yet ... and so i started heights”— Dan Murray-Serter
Michael Pollan
“there's a great book by michael pollan called um how to change your mind and in it he talks about this problem with psychedelics”— Steven Bartlett
Nir Eyal
“i had near l on this podcast and he talked about he writes the book indestructible he talks about how he will literally schedule time”— Steven Bartlett
Steven Bartlett
“i've just finished writing my book um not trying to plug it although happy sexy millionaires happy sexy millionaire available on all bookshelves”— Dan Murray-Serter
Calm
“i used all the apps calm sleepio i tried you know uh cutting out alcohol”— Dan Murray-Serter
Sleepio
“i used all the apps calm sleepio i tried you know uh cutting out alcohol i tried drinking much more alcohol”— Dan Murray-Serter
Casefile Presents
“she'll listen to case file on repeat oh my god is she a case firefighter oh man if i hear that australian pricks”— Dan Murray-Serter
They Walk Among Us
“there's a uk one called they walk amongst her i'm obsessed with true crime yeah so is she”— Dan Murray-Serter
“like last night we watched the mask together right like we will watch something like you know trashy fun whatever”— Dan Murray-Serter