Joe Rogan Experience #2244 - Ryan Graves

Joe Rogan and Ryan Graves open by addressing the late-2024 wave of mysterious drone sightings over New Jersey and the East Coast, debunking the rumor that the objects are hunting a missing nuke. Graves recounts his firsthand experience encountering unidentified objects while flying off the Eastern Seaboard, including the Gimbal and Go Fast videos. The conversation widens into national security gaps, China's drone and deep-tech advantages, quantum computing, AI, and the limits of current law in responding to drone incursions. Graves argues for a public, unclassified scientific investigation into UAP rather than relying solely on classified government programs. They close with sweeping speculation about alien life, underwater civilizations, and what disclosure would mean for humanity.

• Graves says weapons-of-mass-destruction specialists told him there is no loose nuke being chased by the drones, which would have them working a SCIF non-stop.
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• He explains the government is treating drone operators as possible U.S. citizens, requiring warrants and a 120-page report up to the deputy AG just to intercept signals.
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• Graves describes how upgraded F-18 radars in 2013 began detecting strange objects that older radars missed, kicking off his UAP involvement.
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• A pilot had a near-miss with a dark gray cube inside a clear sphere, one of several unreported near-misses in his squadron.
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• The Gimbal and Go Fast videos were recorded during a 2015 workup cycle that nearly had to be shut down due to multiple near-misses.
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• Graves notes anti-gravity and cold fusion are quietly being researched again under new names: extended electrodynamics and low energy nuclear reactions.
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• He argues launching hundreds of drones off the Eastern Seaboard undetected is not trivial and likely requires submarine-launched platforms.
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• Graves vows that if the government won't investigate, he will, using RF receivers and counter-drone tech to trace the signals.
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• Langley Air Force Base experienced unexplained drone incursions for three consecutive years, each time about two to three weeks before Christmas.
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• Some sightings show 3-5 G turns at low airspeeds, then objects loiter for hours and head out over the ocean to where they become untrackable.
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• Graves and his squadron recorded objects shaped like spheres, elongated spheres, and Tic Tacs during a Theodore Roosevelt carrier workup.
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• The U.S. has lost roughly six nuclear weapons, one missing for around 71 years.
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• The phrase 'neither confirm nor deny' (the Glomar response) originated from a covert CIA effort to recover a sunken Soviet submarine.
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• At the Austin Formula 1 race, data-sucking boxes were found connected to the public Wi-Fi and removed by Homeland Security.
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• Extended electrodynamics involves equations normally discarded in engineering that some think yield usable gravitational effects.
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• Scientists have created synthetic human embryos from stem cells without eggs or sperm.
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• Ronald Reagan's UN speech mused that humanity would unite quickly against an alien threat from outside the world.
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• Graves says Americans for Safe Aerospace is nearly the largest UAP organization in the world, with over 13,000 members.
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