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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27

Joe Rogan Experience #2079 - Brigham Buhler

Healthcare entrepreneur Brigham Buhler exposes pharma and insurance corruption while championing peptides, stem cells, and AI-driven preventive medicine.

Joe Rogan Experience #2079 - Brigham Buhler
The guest

Brigham Buhler: Founder of Ways2Well and Revive (a 503A compounding pharmacy); former pharmaceutical and medical-device sales rep turned cash-pay longevity-medicine entrepreneur.

What this episode covers

Brigham Buhler returns to argue that the recent FDA reclassification of peptides as 'dangerous' is driven by big pharma's desire to patent and monopolize them rather than any genuine safety concern. He walks through a history of pharmaceutical malfeasance and explains how insurance companies, pharmacy benefit managers, and even the DOJ are used as enforcement tools against compounding pharmacies and innovative clinicians. He makes the case for cash-pay, data-driven preventive medicine - comprehensive blood work, EEG/brain mapping, genetic testing, testosterone optimization, red-light therapy, and stem cell/peptide treatments. He envisions closed-system large language models acting as 24/7 clinical resources to scale personalized care, while warning that insurer-controlled AI could be used to deny coverage. Joe shares personal results from these therapies and they discuss Aaron Rodgers' rapid Achilles recovery.

Recommended on this episode

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BPC-157

“it works man it really does work insane how well it works”
“body protection compound bpc157 it's rolling muscular skeletal soft tissue healing yeah it works man it really does work insane how well it works”— Brigham Buhler
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Wave Neuroscience (MeRT)

Wave Neuroscience

“super cool company”
“Shane Dorian introduced me to wave Neuroscience super cool company um they're using artificial intelligence again it's a tool”— Brigham Buhler
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Four Sigmatic

Four Sigmatic

“yeah I take ... four sigmatic the ... mushroom neut Tropics”
“yeah I take uh what is it called four sigmatic the uh the mushroom neut Tropics but the direction we're headed with this”— Joe Rogan

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Bottle of Lies

Katherine Eban

“there's a book called bottle of Lies it's an investigative journalist I mean and it's it'll blow your mind like when the FDA showed up they were burning records”— Brigham Buhler
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Ibutamoren (MK-677)

“ibutamoren is the one that helps stimulate growth hormone people use it for weight loss and uh growth hormone production it's a precursor”— Brigham Buhler
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NMN

“aren't they trying to ban nmn as well yeah yeah it's just crazy again same thing where's the where's the negative side effects”— Joe Rogan
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NAD

“we started doing weekly NAD and bpc157 and he swears and again this is anecdotal I'm not saying that this is going to cure him”— Brigham Buhler
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Alpha Brain Black Label

Onnit

“I would really like to try the difference between like trying something like Alpha Brain Black Label and then doing that study and see if it has an impact”— Joe Rogan
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Viagra

Pfizer

“this was prior to Viagra he said I've got to do something for these guys who have a rectile dysfunction I don't have an option”— Brigham Buhler

Big reveals from this episode

  • Buhler alleges Bayer knowingly shipped HIV-contaminated hemophilia blood products to Asian and Latin American markets in the 1980s, citing New York Times documentation.
  • He claims the FDA didn't ban peptides but reclassified them as 'dangerous,' indirectly killing the market because doctors fear litigation, while big pharma seeks to patent over 200 peptides.
  • A former DOJ prosecutor told him pharmacy benefit managers brought monthly stacks of names to the DOJ they wanted federally indicted.
  • Buhler says two FDA heads who approved the COVID vaccines later went to work for Moderna, claiming only two FDA chiefs in 40 years had NOT gone to industry.
  • He cites a Senate finding that insulin priced near $284-$381 a vial returned under $40 to the manufacturer, the rest captured by PBMs and insurers.
  • He recounts identifying the same serial-number surgical shaver used in a tiger surgery at the Houston Zoo later appearing in a human surgery.
  • He claims 65% of an oncologist's income comes from the markup on chemotherapy they administer.
  • Aaron Rodgers used cellular treatments and infrared on his torn Achilles, recovering in roughly 11 weeks, with much done without team-doctor knowledge.

Worth remembering

  • Peptides are short-chain amino acids that occur naturally; you cannot patent the molecule itself, only its dosage and delivery mechanism.
  • Buhler claims 2,500 big-pharma manufacturing facilities haven't been FDA-inspected in five-plus years, and overseas plants get three months' notice before inspection.
  • The dogma that testosterone causes prostate cancer traces to a debunked study of three patients; prostate cancer risk at near-zero testosterone is basically zero.
  • The 'saturation model': once testosterone receptors are bound, more provides no added benefit, like a fully watered plant.
  • Drug and device reps carry 'trunk stock' - product kept in car trunks in 110-degree heat with no climate control or chain of custody.
  • Being in the top 25% of VO2 max reduces all-cause mortality by about 400 percent.
  • Humans share common ancestors with the Greenland shark (400-600 years, no cancer) and regenerating jellyfish, implying dormant longevity code in our genome.
  • Buhler's brain fires at 12.5 Hz at the posterior but drops to 9.5 Hz at the prefrontal cortex; MeRT magnetic therapy aims to restore that signal speed.
  • Lack of sunlight upregulates melatonin, which suppresses testicular function and lowers testosterone; 30 minutes of sun can raise levels.
  • A study found 200 million vs 20 million live cells injected into a heart produced comparable improvement, suggesting minimal effective dosing.