Anne Lamott on taming the inner critic, radical self-care, writing badly on purpose, recovery, prayer, and turning pain into medicine.

Anne Lamott: Best-selling author of 19 books including the writing classic 'Bird by Bird' and faith essay collections like 'Traveling Mercies.' A Sunday school teacher, recovering alcoholic, and Guggenheim fellow known for blending candor, humor, and spirituality.
Tim Ferriss interviews author Anne Lamott, opening with how 'Bird by Bird' rescued his own near-breakdown while writing 'The 4-Hour Workweek.' Lamott unpacks her core writing teachings, shitty first drafts, the one-inch picture frame, taking it 'bird by bird,' and turning down the self-critical 'KFKD radio.' She shares deeply personal stories of a people-pleasing childhood, 35 years of sobriety after a three-day blackout, and several dark nights of the soul that catalyzed her practice of radical self-care. The conversation ranges across prayer, anxiety, her husband Neal Allen's inner-critic work, welcoming disowned parts of herself to dinner, and the title and themes of her book 'Dusk, Night, Dawn.' Both share raw moments, including Tim's own past suicidal period, illustrating how vulnerability and storytelling become medicine.
Sam Lamott
“i recently listened to his episode on the how to human podcast and people can find many interviews online at hellohumans.co”— Tim Ferriss
Gabriel Garcia Marquez
“i always loved this novel by gabriel garcia marquez called love in the time of cholera”— Anne Lamott
Hayao Miyazaki
“an animated movie called spirited away by hayao miyazaki it's just a mesmerizing fantastical film and it's so deeply layered”— Tim Ferriss
“babe about farmer hoggett and the linda pig and i came to really appreciate babe it is it is a nuanced hilarious movie”— Tim Ferriss
Jacques Audiard
“there's a movie called the prophet i don't speak french but it's french i think is really beautifully shot and packed full of lessons”— Tim Ferriss
Roland Joffe
“it's called the mission and it is one of the most profound moments i've ever seen in my life”— Anne Lamott
Nacer Khemir
“there's a movie i've made sam and my grandchild watch that that changed my life it's called babazis the persian movie”— Anne Lamott
“there's many movies i mean i love the godfather and i love i've completely turned on woody allen”— Anne Lamott
Anne Lamott
“her beloved and best-selling books like operating instructions an account of her son's first year”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“bird by bird her classic book on writing and i will have a fair amount to say about that”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“and help thanks wow a celebration of prayer lamont delves into what makes us human”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“she is the author of several essay collections on faith including traveling mercies grace parenthetically eventually and plan b”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“several essay collections on faith including traveling mercies grace parenthetically eventually and plan b”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“several essay collections on faith including traveling mercies grace parenthetically eventually and plan b”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“as well as several novels including imperfect birds blue shoe and rosie”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“as well as several novels including imperfect birds blue shoe and rosie”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“as well as several novels including imperfect birds blue shoe and rosie”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“her most recent book is dusk night dawn subtitle on revival and courage”— Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss
“when i was working on my first book four hour work week the blessing and curse that that title has always been”— Tim Ferriss
Anne Lamott
“my last book the book before this was called almost everything thoughts on hope”— Anne Lamott
Freida Lee Mock
“the subject of academy award-winning filmmaker freda mock's documentary bird by bird with annie”— Tim Ferriss
Neal Allen
“i'll just mention my husband's work here he's uh neil allen he wrote shapes of truth and the work he does with people”— Anne Lamott
IKEA
“if the abyss threatens to you you get ikea and you buy a cute throw rug you know”— Anne Lamott
“when he was uh eight or nine we were watching king kong the jessica lang remake”— Anne Lamott
Elizabeth Lesser
“she had written a book about the miracle of telling people the truth and it ended up being a book about that that's published marrow it's called”— Anne Lamott
Mars
“and then we got a bag of eminem so we drove around town listening to the beatles and eating m m's and we both got so happy”— Anne Lamott
Freida Lee Mock
“freda mock who'd made the academy award-winning documentary about maya lin and the vietnam memorial wall in dc”— Anne Lamott
Gabriel Garcia Marquez
“thousand thousand years of solitude or 100 years of solitude one of those it takes a village but uh 100 years of solitude”— Anne Lamott
“for the first book the movies were shawn of the dead which is a comedy and the born identity”— Tim Ferriss
“the movies were shawn of the dead which is a comedy and the born identity the firstborn identity”— Tim Ferriss
“the two movies were casino royale the james bond film and then babe about farmer hoggett and the linda pig”— Tim Ferriss
“you saw my octopus teacher right i did i did”— Anne Lamott