Kurt Metzger: Stand-up comedian, writer and longtime co-host on Jimmy Dore's show, known for his dark humor and deep-dive conspiracy riffs. A frequent JRE guest who blends comedy with sprawling theories about secret societies and power.
What this episode covers
This is a freewheeling, largely improvised conversation that jumps from John C. Lilly's dolphin experiments to a barrage of conspiracy topics. Metzger drives most of it, riffing on geoengineering and cloud seeding, MK Ultra and 'Project Monarch' mind control, the assassinations of Charlie Kirk and Minnesota legislators, and a recently murdered MIT plasma physicist. The pair circle repeatedly around bloodlines, secret societies, and the idea that elites view AI as a coming god. There is heavy political commentary on Israel/Gaza, Venezuela strikes, COVID policy and ivermectin. Buyable recommendations are sparse amid the rambling, mostly a handful of conspiracy authors and vampire films.
Recommended on this episode
Joseph P. Farrell (books on the Nazi Bell / plasma physics)
Joseph P. Farrell
“by the way. Fun fact, and that's why Joseph P. Frell, I can't recommend him enough. Joseph, Dr. Joseph P. Ferrell.”— Kurt Metzger
The SS Brotherhood of the Bell / A demon in the I core
Joseph P. Farrell
“a demon in the in the I core or ecore it's called. That's the book you should get about it.”— Kurt Metzger
The Twilight Language
Michael Hoffman
“I got a great book by Michael Hoffman called The Twilight Language. The Twilight Language is in Buddhism and it kind of refers to a coded language”— Kurt Metzger
Nosferatu (2024)
Robert Eggers
“I think it's the best vampire movie ever. That's what I think.”— Kurt Metzger
Hail, Caesar!
Coen Brothers
“Hail Caesar. I like that movie a lot. I didn't like it when I first saw it”— Kurt Metzger
Wild Wild Country
Maclain Way and Chapman Way
“who used to be in the Raj Nich cult from Wild Wild Country. If you ever saw. Oh, I love that show.”— Joe Rogan
Also referenced (named, not recommended)
Mormon Monarch Jr.
“I just finally got this in the mail, but I got you one. What is it? Mormon monarch Jr. Sweet. And he explains a lot of stuff about the Mormons”— Kurt Metzger
Stranger Things
The Duffer Brothers
“Stranger Things actors they aged weird. Well they separated the seasons by years. There was like big gaps in the seasons.”— Joe Rogan
Dark Shadows
Dan Curtis
“Barnabas Collins. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dark Shadows. Dark Shadows. Yeah. The 70s one.”— Kurt Metzger
Blade
Stephen Norrington
“maybe he's like Whistler from Blade. Like that old guy you hang out with. Like Blade and Whistler.”— Joe Rogan
Jaws
Steven Spielberg
“it literally looks like the scene in Jaws where the shark's hitting the girl. She's like whipping around.”— Kurt Metzger
Men in Black
Barry Sonnenfeld
“You remember in MIB the blinky light thing that makes you forget that you saw aliens.”— Joe Rogan
Perplexity
Perplexity AI
“Thank you, Perplexity. Oh yeah. No, it's all Thank you to our sponsor, Perplexity.”— Kurt Metzger
Big reveals from this episode
- Metzger reads a graphic secondhand account of a dolphin handler being dragged underwater by an aroused dolphin.
- Both flatly claim climate change 'is not real' while insisting the UAE artificially makes it rain weekly via cloud seeding.
- Metzger alleges the IDF medically patched up ISIS fighters in Syria and that ISIS only attacked Israel once, then apologized.
- Rogan and Metzger claim doctors received roughly $750 per child and up to $1.5M per practice as vaccination 'bounties.'
- Long segment on murdered MIT plasma physicist Nuno Loureiro, framing his death as suspicious given his fusion-energy breakthroughs.
- They read aloud the handwritten Vance Boelter letter accusing Tim Walz of ordering the Minnesota legislator shootings.
- Metzger frames the Collins pronatalist couple as eugenicists tied to a 'technopuritan' belief that AI is God.
- Metzger declares the 2024 Nosferatu 'the best vampire movie ever.'
Worth remembering
- Dolphins reportedly have a cerebral cortex about 40% larger than a human's, with their own dialects.
- The North Sentinel Islanders' hostility is tied to explorer Maurice Vidal Portman, who allegedly kidnapped and sickened islanders.
- They cite the documented fact that the CIA covertly promoted American abstract art (Pollock, Rothko) during the Cold War.
- Discussion of Earth's axial precession ('procession of the equinoxes') driving long warming and cooling cycles.
- Plasma is cited as making up roughly 99% of the visible ordinary matter in the universe.
- Metzger frames generational trauma as scientifically real, calling it 'epigenetics.'
- America, not Nazi Germany, pioneered eugenics, dating to the era of the arm-out Bellamy salute.
- Dark Shadows' Barnabas Collins debuted as a 13-week arc and became the show's breakout star, drawing on Bram Stoker's Dracula.