The guest
Joe List: Stand-up comedian, host of the Tuesdays with Stories and Mindful Metal Jacket podcasts, and a fixture of the Boston/New York comedy scenes.
What this episode covers
Joe List joins Joe Rogan for a loose, freewheeling conversation after performing several nights at Rogan's Comedy Mothership in Austin. They trade stories about the craft of stand-up, crowd work, and famously self-destructive comics like Sam Kinison, then drift into Rogan's detailed account of designing and building the Mothership in a historic 1927 theater. The two spiral through tangents on AI, transhumanism, and a 'devil's trick' theory about uploading consciousness, plus long bits on movies, the Wizard of Oz / Dark Side of the Moon sync, sauna science, climate change, and a lot of crude sexual humor. Joe List also reveals he is about to become a first-time father to a baby boy.
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“my favorite book of all time”
“you know that book yeah John krakauer my favorite book of all time good book love cracker”— Joe Rogan
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The Killing of a Sacred Deer
Yorgos Lanthimos
“highly recommend; you would love it”
“killing of a sacred deer is um Nicole Kidman and uh Colin Farrell what's this great”— Joe Rogan
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Dogtooth
Yorgos Lanthimos
“that's amazing”
“he has a movie called Dog tooth that's amazing and that is in Greek you have to read that one”— Joe Rogan
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Have You Seen Me Lately?
Sam Kinison
“it's amazing; so good”
“the HBO special is amazing I mean it's amazing it's just so good there's so many good bits in it”— Joe Rogan
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Louder Than Hell
Sam Kinison
“it's really good”
“his first thing which is louder than hell which is a cassette and it's really good it's hard to get”— Joe Rogan
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The Wizard of Oz
Victor Fleming
“Wizard of Oz rules; great film”
“Wizard of Oz rules great film when's the last time you watched it a long time ago”— Joe Rogan
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The Dark Knight
Christopher Nolan
“those movies rule”
“those movies rule I was just talking about I just rewatched Dark Knight on the plane and his Ledger is like unrecognizable”— Joe Rogan
The guest's own work
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Mindful Metal Jacket
Joe List
“I have a podcast mindful Metal Jacket I just had him on it and we just talked about”— Joe List
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The Dark Side of the Moon
Pink Floyd
“was it dark side of the moon right yeah that they sync up absolutely perfectly but maybe it's not”— Joe Rogan
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Star Wars
George Lucas
“when Star Wars came out I think we saw it like 13 times it was a thing with me and my friends”— Joe Rogan
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Return of the Jedi
“the Return of the Jedi is really silly I don't remember the wookies like beat the Imperial Army with like rocks”— Joe List
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Alone
History
“his episode was amazing he shot a moose with a bow and arrow and then a wolverine was stealing the moose”— Joe Rogan
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Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn
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“in that show that he did tough crowd was really essentially one of the beginnings of podcasting”— Joe Rogan
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Tesla
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“I love a good windshield wiper stock that's one thing that bums me out about my Tesla”— Joe Rogan
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Hydro Flask
Hydro Flask
“when I go in the sauna I drink a big Hydro Flask filled with water like a 64 ounce”— Joe Rogan
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Tylenol PM
Tylenol
“I take a Tylenol PM and I can't read anymore I'm like I gotta lay down”— Joe List
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ESPN Plus
ESPN
“I could watch ESPN Plus on my phone I watch fights like live streaming with just with 5G”— Joe Rogan
Big reveals from this episode
- Joe List reveals his wife is pregnant and he is expecting a baby boy in about three weeks, his first child.
- Rogan explains how he conceived and built the Comedy Mothership, buying a historic 1927 theater he could own rather than lease.
- Louis CK gave Rogan key design advice to lower the ceilings and shrink the small-room stage.
- Rogan lays out his theory that the devil's ultimate trick is convincing people to upload their souls into a machine for eternity.
- Joe List reveals he is making a documentary about comedian Tom Dustin, who co-owns and runs a comedy club in Key West.
- Rogan cites a Finnish study showing frequent sauna users had a 40% lower all-cause mortality over 20 years.
Worth remembering
- A man who received a genetically modified pig heart transplant lived for 61 days.
- The pitcher's mound sits 60 feet 6 inches from home plate because a handwritten '60 feet' had a zero misread as a six.
- Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon appears to sync with The Wizard of Oz, though Roger Waters insists it is pure coincidence.
- The Wizard of Oz is the most-seen film in history according to the Library of Congress.
- Judy Garland was a teenager during filming with her chest taped down to look younger.
- A NASA-led study found a quarter to half of Earth's vegetated land has greened over 35 years, largely due to rising CO2.
- There are roughly 3.04 trillion trees on Earth.
- Shirako is the milt or sperm sacs of male cod, served as sushi across Japan.
- Reindeer are the only deer species widely domesticated; herders in Siberia and Mongolia ride them.
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