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Joe Rogan · 2025-11-04

Joe Rogan Experience #2405 - Luis J Gomez & Big Jay Oakerson

Comedians Luis J. Gomez and Big Jay Oakerson riff with Joe Rogan on mosh pits, taping specials, drug legalization, prison, and the coming AI takeover.

Joe Rogan Experience #2405 - Luis J Gomez & Big Jay Oakerson
The guest

Luis J. Gomez & Big Jay Oakerson: Stand-up comedians and podcast hosts behind the Legion of Skanks podcast and the live comedy festival Skankfest. Gomez also hosts GaS Digital shows; Oakerson is a touring headliner known for crowd work.

What this episode covers

This is a loose, three-hour comedy hang with no single subject. The trio opens on concert mosh-pit culture and wild metal-show stories, then drifts into the craft of stand-up: filming Netflix specials live, the pressure to produce a new hour every year, and why recordings never capture the best version of a set. From there they cover plastic surgery and aging in Hollywood, baldness, kung-fu movies, and a long stretch on drug policy where Rogan argues for legalizing and regulating cocaine and other drugs. The back half turns dark and speculative: serial killers and true-crime cases (Ed Gein, Amityville, the West Memphis Three), prison and rehabilitation, gold-digger relationships, and a closing run on AI, autonomous weapons, and Rogan's theory that humanity may exist mainly to birth artificial intelligence.

Recommended on this episode

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Wicked

Jon M. Chu

“really good by the way ... amazing”
“Wicked is really good by the way. The movie The movie is amazing.”— Big Jay Oakerson
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The Substance

Coralie Fargeat

“Great movie, man”
“Did you see the substance? Great movie, man.”— Luis J Gomez
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Warrior

Gavin O'Connor

“The first one was awesome”
“they did it good in the MMA movie The first one was awesome.”— Big Jay Oakerson

The guest's own work

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You're Making This Worse

Luis J. Gomez

“the November 2nd, brand new special. You're making This Worse available on my YouTube.”— Luis J Gomez
MediaBy the guest

Skankfest

Legion of Skanks

“when's the next Gangfest? Uh, two weeks. November 13th through 16th. it's going to be in New Orleans this year. Crazy lineup.”— Luis J Gomez
MediaBy the guest

Big Jay Oakerson crowd-work double album

Big Jay Oakerson

“I got a double uh limited edition uh double album of my last crowdwork special is for pre-sale now. Bigj Comedy.com.”— Big Jay Oakerson

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Thriller

Michael Jackson

“It's funny because this is so corny today, but back then it was like legitimately good. We were like, Wow, that looks so real.”— Big Jay Oakerson
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An American Werewolf in London

John Landis

“Rick Baker talked about that. He's the guy that made the American Werewolf in London.”— Joe Rogan
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Jaws

Steven Spielberg

“I think in Jaws, right, they don't show the shark until the end the whole everything scary about Jaws is just the music.”— Big Jay Oakerson
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Jurassic Park

Steven Spielberg

“The dinosaurs in the first Jurassic Park were only on screen for like 15 minutes total. That was the best CGI ever up to that point.”— Joe Rogan
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The Shining

Stanley Kubrick

“That's the Stanley Kubrick and what's her name? The one who played Wendy in The Shining.”— Big Jay Oakerson
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The Boxer

Jim Sheridan

“I tell you who did it well is Daniel D. Lewis in that movie The Fighter. He did it well. he actually trained as a boxer for a full year”— Luis J Gomez
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Road House (1989)

Rowdy Herrington

“the first film. Takes place in Missouri until you get Patrick Swayze to come to town and be the bouncer Um, I bought that.”— Big Jay Oakerson
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Taxi Driver

Martin Scorsese

“That's Robert De Niro's character in Taxi Driver. He looked exactly like he purposely chose to look like that character.”— Luis J Gomez
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The Amityville Horror

Stuart Rosenberg

“The case inspired the book and film versions of the Amityville horror.”— Big Jay Oakerson
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Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer

John McNaughton

“Do you ever see that movie Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer? It's based on Henry Lee Lucas.”— Joe Rogan
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Faces of Death

John Alan Schwartz

“We have to have Faces of Death. You have to buy a Faces of Death tape on television at the gas station.”— Big Jay Oakerson
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Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller

National Geographic

“there's a show called Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller. she does wild stories she went to the people in Colombia that are making the cocaine”— Joe Rogan
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Love After Lockup

WE tv

“on that show Love After Lockup, there's already been at least one thing of the girl had to quit being a prison guard”— Big Jay Oakerson
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Surviving Ohio State

HBO

“Did you watch Surviving Ohio State about the doctor who was raping all the male athletes?”— Luis J Gomez
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Call of Duty

Activision

“think about how many kids play Madden, they play Call of Duty. Call of Duty is tough, right?”— Joe Rogan
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Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan (Hunter Biden interview)

Andrew Callaghan

“Andrew Callahan, Channel 5. He did an interview with Biden and Biden gives like a soliloquy about the virtues of crack”— Joe Rogan

Big reveals from this episode

  • Gomez recounts dosing a kid's acid into Ari Shafir's beer to prank him during a Legion of Skanks president 'election', but Ari secretly switched the beer with Big Jay's.
  • Big Jay reveals he unknowingly drank the dosed beer and stayed up tripping on LSD for 26 straight hours, just thinking 'why would my friends do this to me?'
  • Rogan says as a teen he privately trained a hitman from Whitey Bulger's organized-crime crew at his taekwondo school.
  • Rogan lays out a full argument that the U.S. should legalize and pharmaceutically regulate cocaine to cut out cartels and fentanyl-laced supply.
  • Rogan admits he had an accepted offer on a 'murder house' (a judge killed there by an ex-con) and backed out at the last minute, mostly because it was 300 years old.
  • Rogan floats the idea that the human race's real purpose may be to force production until it births artificial intelligence that then takes over.
  • Story that Iron Butterfly's keyboardist told the band he'd 'figured out traveling the speed of light,' left for Washington, and was never heard from again.

Worth remembering

  • The shark in Jaws has about 4 minutes of screen time, with its first full appearance not until 1 hour 21 minutes into the film.
  • The dinosaurs in the original Jurassic Park were on screen for only about 15 minutes total.
  • Alcohol prohibition in the U.S. lasted 13 years, which the group ties to the rise of organized crime, Al Capone, and even NASCAR (souped-up moonshiner cars).
  • NYC's 'Operation Padlock to Protect' inspected 100% of known illegal cannabis shops and seized more than $63 million in product.
  • Perplexity rattles off real cases of female guards helping inmates escape: Vicky White (Alabama, later died by suicide), Joyce Mitchell (NY, smuggled hacksaw blades), and others.
  • The Matrix's Wachowskis are referenced as the 'sisters' who both later transitioned, joked about as 'figuring out' the simulation.
  • One of the most potent psychedelics, salvia, was legally sold in head shops unregulated for about a year.
  • Rogan says AI-controlled fighter jets now win 100% of dogfights against human pilots, and that autonomous weapons are outperforming human-operated ones.