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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27

Joe Rogan Experience #1960 - Andrew Schulz

Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz riff on comedy craft, building the Austin club, cobalt-mine ethics, history, technology, and cars.

Joe Rogan Experience #1960 - Andrew Schulz
The guest

Andrew Schulz: Stand-up comedian, podcaster (Flagrant), and actor known for his crowd-work and edgy specials.

What this episode covers

Andrew Schulz visits Joe Rogan at the Comedy Mothership after shooting his first archery shot, and the two settle into a sprawling conversation. They spend the first stretch dissecting comedy itself: the value of small versus big rooms, having a comedic 'North Star,' how Lenny Bruce invented the modern art form, and how Schulz struggled to write honest new material after his last special. The talk widens into history and technology, covering the Mongols, Roman lead pipes, Hedy Lamarr inventing frequency-hopping, AI and ChatGPT, and a long riff on the ethics of cobalt mining in every phone and EV. They close on discipline and ritual, comparing cold plunges and religion as voluntary suffering, and on combat sports, samurai, and what raw competition strips from the ego.

Recommended on this episode

BookRecommendedISBN verified

The War of Art

Steven Pressfield

“war of art book is so good man”
“you know war of art book is so good man Steven pressfield's book stepen pressfield he's been on the podcast a couple times”— Joe Rogan
BookRecommended

The Book of Five Rings

Miyamoto Musashi

“the greatest book of strategy”
“the book of five rings is based on mamoto Musashi's writings about I don't know book the greatest book of strategy”— Joe Rogan
ProductRecommended

Lndes Tequila

“this is good tequila... it's very tasty”
“this is good tequila dude this is yours not bad yeah yeah yeah what's it called lndes dude good rep is crazy”— Andrew Schulz
ProductRecommended

Range Rover

Land Rover

“they're awesome... it's like a giant tank of opulence”
“I rented one in Salt Lake City I'm like a yeah it's like a a giant tank of opulence like a yeah this beautiful”— Joe Rogan
ProductRecommended

BMW M3 (E46)

BMW

“BMW is the [shit]... E46 bmwm3 shut the fuck up”
“BMW is the [ __ ] they're into the cars they have you seen an SL500 bro E46 bmwm3 shut the [ __ ] up”— Andrew Schulz
ProductRecommended

iPhone 11

Apple

“it's great still works”
“I have a [ __ ] iPhone 11 one of my phone lines is an iPhone 11 it's great still works still seems so normal”— Joe Rogan
ProductRecommended

Henry rifle

Henry Repeating Arms

“they make some dope rifles”
“the Henry Rifles they still make Henry Rifles today they make some dope rifles but this is back then”— Joe Rogan

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

BookReferenced

The Epic of Gilgamesh

“the EP Epic of Gilgamesh which comes from this ancient saman culture very similar to Noah's Arc a little bit”— Joe Rogan
BookReferenced

Peter Frampton memoir

Peter Frampton

“a revealing new Memoir Peter Frampton I was kept High if I needed cocaine he made sure I had it”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

ChatGPT (GPT-4)

OpenAI

“I think you can talk to chat gp4 as if it's a God”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Toyota Corolla

Toyota

“there's like Toyota Cora Toyota 20 years bro you get a Toyota that [ __ ] is never going to break”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Toyota Land Cruiser

Toyota

“when you see what the Taliban uses yes Land Cruisers yeah and then there's Range Rovers”— Joe Rogan
ProductReferenced

Mercedes-Benz SL500

Mercedes-Benz

“BMW is the [ __ ] they're into the cars they have you seen an SL500 bro E46 bmwm3 shut the [ __ ] up”— Andrew Schulz
ProductReferenced

Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

Samsung

“he's got a Samsung Galaxy s23 Ultra that's a $1400 $1,500 phone that's not like a cheap phone”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

Top Gun

“you go watch [ __ ] Top Gun you go watch Maverick and you're just like oh my God how amazing is it to be American”— Andrew Schulz
MediaReferenced

Rocky

“Rocky wins with American shorts on got American flag shorts on best a away game too you know I mean”— Andrew Schulz
MediaReferenced

Red Dawn

“there was all those movies like Red Dawn where the Russians invade we kicked their [ __ ] ass send him back home”— Joe Rogan
MediaReferenced

The Godfather

“did you watch the uh the what is that show about the making of The Godfather no I didn't see that”— Joe Rogan

Big reveals from this episode

  • Joe explains Steven Pressfield's The War of Art as a framework for beating 'resistance' and showing up like a professional so the Muse arrives.
  • Schulz admits writing material after his last special was uniquely hard because he refused to redo old jokes and wanted comedy that reflected how he'd actually changed.
  • Joe details his two ACL surgeries, including a cadaver Achilles graft that acts as a 'scaffolding' his body rebuilds into a stronger tendon within six months.
  • Both agree comedians 'blew out' the cultural scrutiny on edgy jokes, partly because podcast audiences proved comics weren't alone.
  • Schulz recounts the awkward phone call explaining the 'Heavies' inside joke to North Korean defector Yeonmi Park before her appearance.
  • They land on the moral conundrum that every lithium-ion device is tied to exploitative cobalt mining, and nobody changes their behavior because it's too inconvenient.
  • They explore the theory that Roman emperor Commodus went insane from lead-pipe drinking water available only to the wealthy.

Worth remembering

  • Mongol horse archers timed their arrow release for when the horse was airborne to minimize the jolt and improve accuracy.
  • Actress Hedy Lamarr invented frequency-hopping technology, was dubbed the 'mother of Wi-Fi,' and was inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame in 2014.
  • Idaho hosts the only cobalt mine in the United States.
  • A smartphone battery uses roughly 5-20 grams of cobalt, while an electric-vehicle battery requires 4-30 kilograms.
  • Samsung's 'moonshot' photos use artificial intelligence to add detail rather than pure 100x optical zoom.
  • The Moon is tidally locked to Earth, so it rotates at the same rate it orbits and always shows us the same face.
  • Japan ranked number one for countries most exposed to tropical cyclones worldwide in 2022.
  • The Dresden Academy of Engineers was founded in 1743, part of Germany's long head start in engineering and the sciences.
  • By 1944 the U.S. Alsos mission found the Nazis had only reached preliminary nuclear research and never came close to a bomb.
  • Swordsman Miyamoto Musashi won at least 60 one-on-one duels and held that a great swordsman must also master calligraphy and poetry.