Joe Rogan Experience #2138 - Tucker Carlson

Tucker Carlson argues that UAPs are not alien craft but supernatural or spiritual entities that have been present on Earth for thousands of years, citing servicemen deaths and Stanford's Gary Nolan. The conversation widens into AI as a potential machine 'god' that should be resisted, the morality of dropping the atomic bomb, and a recurring theme that lying is the root of evil. Carlson and Rogan dissect government secrecy, warrantless surveillance, the prosecution of a black-nationalist group for repeating 'Russian' opinions, and the Watergate/JFK deep-state framing of history. They close on creativity, comedy, the rise of podcasts, Alex Jones's 'prophetic' predictions, and the idea that weak leaders become vessels for evil.

• Tucker says the US government accidentally released documents on a UAP program called Kona Blue, admitting deaths and injuries from contact with advanced aerospace vehicles.
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• Carlson states his core thesis: UFOs are not from another planet but are spiritual or supernatural entities that have been on Earth for thousands of years.
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• Carlson claims a source who saw classified JFK documents told him the CIA, specifically James Jesus Angleton, had knowledge of the assassination.
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• Carlson says Mike Pompeo's lawyer phoned to warn him that revealing the contents of classified documents is a crime, which he frames as a threat.
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• Carlson alleges the government broke into his Signal account and leaked his private texts to the New York Times to discredit him.
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• Rogan and Carlson revisit Alex Jones predicting on tape in summer 2001 that planes would hit the World Trade Center and Osama Bin Laden would be blamed.
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• Carlson reframes Watergate as a deep-state coup, calling Bob Woodward a former naval intelligence officer who worked with the FBI to oust Nixon.
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• Tucker Carlson says he has not used email in many years and does not go on the internet, communicating only by text.
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• Stanford professor Gary Nolan is described as an expert witness assessing brain injuries to US servicemen from proximity to these objects.
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• Carlson heats his Finnish wood-fired sauna with birch to 200 degrees, a process taking about an hour and twenty minutes.
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• Rogan does a cold plunge for 3 minutes at 33 degrees and a sauna for 25 minutes at 196 degrees as his daily routine.
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• As a 15-year-old in 1984, Carlson illegally drove from Tahoe to San Francisco for his first Grateful Dead show.
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• Carlson's father, a San Francisco reporter, personally knew the Grateful Dead, and Jerry Garcia once visited his DC office.
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• Carlson worked for Harvey Weinstein in 1999 as head political writer for Talk magazine, co-run by Tina Brown.
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• Rogan says the Joe Rogan Experience took about five years before it started making real money.
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• Carlson owns Eric Prince's 'Unplugged' phones and says they are designed to keep Apple and Google from tracking you.
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