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Tim Ferriss · 2025-11-05

The Path to 150M+ Daily Roblox Users, Ketogenic Therapy for Brain Health, and More — CEO of Roblox

Roblox CEO David Baszucki on saving his son's bipolar with ketogenic therapy, the science of ketosis, and building Roblox's digital economy.

The Path to 150M+ Daily Roblox Users, Ketogenic Therapy for Brain Health, and More — CEO of Roblox
The guest

David Baszucki: Co-founder and CEO of Roblox; co-founder of the Baszucki Group and metabolic-psychiatry advocate (metabolicmind.org).

What this episode covers

David Baszucki joins Tim Ferriss for a wide-ranging conversation that opens with his family's deeply personal story: his son Matthew's 8-9 year struggle with bipolar disorder through college, hospitalizations, and homelessness, which finally improved on a ketogenic diet after 20-plus failed medications. They go deep on the mechanisms and practicalities of ketosis, including ketone monitoring, sleep, breath holds, exogenous ketones for Alzheimer's relatives, and ketosis resolving Tim's post-Lyme symptoms. The second half pivots to Roblox: its scale, the pivotal decision to build the Robux digital economy, mobile/3D bets, creator-revenue philosophy, copycat games, child safety, and AI. Baszucki frames much of his strategy around recognizing technological inevitabilities and playing the long game.

Recommended on this episode

ProductRecommended

Continuous glucose monitor (CGM)

“That would be my biggest recommendation for people is to wear a CGM if you can”
“Many of your audience, they've probably tried CGM, which are continuous glucose monitors now, which are a complement to ketosis”— David Baszucki
MediaRecommended

Atmospheric Calm (Spotify playlist)

Spotify

“It's my go-to playlist if I need a quick boost in creativity or productivity”
“I still listen to Atmospheric Calm on Spotify. I am unable to function with anything other than ambient noise in the background”— David Baszucki
BookRecommendedISBN verified

The Infinite Game

Simon Sinek

“That one I think really got me thinking. I'm a big fan of that”
“One of our board members gave me this book called the infinite game and it's the original infinite game book... I'm a big fan of that”— David Baszucki
BookRecommendedISBN verified

Finite and Infinite Games

James P. Carse

“that that one really got me into thinking fun, play, Roblox is a long game... That one I think really got me thinking. I'm a big fan of that”
“The original finite and infinite games, I believe is Carse. Yeah, that's the one, the original. And so that that one really got me into thinking”— Tim Ferriss

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

The 4-Hour Workweek

Tim Ferriss

“when we started chatting before I came on, I had read one of your books literally 10 or 15 years ago and it got me inspired to do kettlebells”— David Baszucki
MediaBy the guest

Roblox

Roblox

“The way Roblox presents today, you could think of it as a 3D gaming play platform with about 120 million people on it every day”— David Baszucki

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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Precision Xtra

Abbott

“for people who are wondering, you know, I've used the Precision Xtra device, but then you end up having to do a million finger pricks”— Tim Ferriss
ProductReferenced

Continuous ketone monitor (CKM)

“What has started coming out now, and it's surprisingly not available in the United States, are continuous ketone monitors, CKMs. They're available for sale in Canada”— David Baszucki
ProductReferenced

Oura Ring

Oura

“I wear an Oura Ring, so I'm able to track some of this. You could debate maybe the accuracy of the algorithms and so on”— Tim Ferriss
MediaReferenced

Star Trek

“whether it's the holodeck we've seen on Star Trek or some of those things, where maybe instead of a video call, I'm hanging out with my dad”— David Baszucki
MediaReferenced

Grow a Garden

“what was recently hot, grow a garden, where your garden is always growing in the background and you're tuning it and you're trying to make it better”— David Baszucki
MediaReferenced

Dress to Impress

“a top game is dressed to impress, like a fashion game where you you pick clothes out for 5 minutes and you compete in a fashion show”— David Baszucki
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The Mimic

“There are a couple of them show up a bunch. The Mimic, 99 Nights in the Forest. And there are there are many more”— Tim Ferriss
MediaReferenced

99 Nights in the Forest

“There are a couple of them show up a bunch. The Mimic, 99 Nights in the Forest. And there are there are many more”— Tim Ferriss
MediaReferenced

Survive the Disaster

“there was a really fun very simple game called Survive the Natural Disaster on Roblox. Early on in the prototyping phase, I had a version running on a very old iPhone”— David Baszucki
MediaReferenced

2001: A Space Odyssey

“a long time ago, we had Hal in 2001, and no one's ever going to be like that. And arguably, the AI systems today are are better than Hal in 2001”— David Baszucki
BookReferencedISBN verified

Good Energy

Casey Means

“we also put it on another axis which we just picked up the good energy axis... And we got the Casey Means book from that and all of that”— David Baszucki
ProductReferenced

MCT oil

“your mixing of I forget what kind of oil you were mixing with your coffee... Could have been MCT oil. Could have been any number of things”— Tim Ferriss
MediaReferenced

Surrealistic Pillow

Jefferson Airplane

“I'm thinking metaphorically right now just off our whole conversation and then popping back to surrealistic pillow... how about feed your head?”— Tim Ferriss

Big reveals from this episode

  • After 20-plus medications failed over 8-9 years, Baszucki's son saw progress on a ketogenic diet within 3-4 weeks, which Baszucki calls 'a miracle' and the catalyst for the family's whole metabolic-health mission.
  • In December 2017 his son ran away full-blown manic, flushed his meds, streamed himself on social media, bused to San Diego and slept in a lifeguard shack; Baszucki recounts an elaborate rescue tricking him into a hospital via a fake steak-dinner and hand-injury checkup.
  • On a family trip to Mexico, avocados carried more carbs than expected and nudged Matt out of ketosis within days, bringing back manic symptoms; switching to just fish and butter popped him right back in, showing how tight the correlation is.
  • Roblox had great user/hours growth but lagging revenue under an old $5/month membership model; the team eventually committed to building a full Robux digital economy and knew within four hours of shipping that it worked.
  • Within four hours of launching the Robux economy, 22 of the top 100 creators had already integrated Robux features and users were already buying and spending, confirming the bet.
  • Baszucki says one of Roblox's best decisions was optimizing creator revenue over company profit, leaning cash back to developers rather than being a 'ridiculously profitable company.'
  • By end of year, Roblox plans to use AI age estimation via phone cameras to know users' ages and cluster people by age, blocking communication between users of widely different ages.

Worth remembering

  • Ketones are a 'more primitive' second energy pathway the body enters during fasting or very-low-carb eating; Baszucki ties bipolar symptoms to the brain not getting consistent energy amid glucose spikes and crashes.
  • Matt's diet is under 20g of carbs per day and higher in fat than protein; Baszucki notes a quarter of a Coke has roughly 20g of carbs.
  • Continuous ketone monitors (CKMs) are sold in Canada but not yet approved in the US; Baszucki jokes he's in a 'smuggling ring' bringing them across the border.
  • After Wim Hof-style breathing at roughly 3 millimolar ketones, Ferriss extended a breath hold from about 45 seconds to 2 minutes 50; on day nine of a 10-day fast in a hyperbaric chamber he reached 9 minutes.
  • Ferriss gives Alzheimer's relatives 25-30 mL of BHB exogenous ketones and sees noticeably longer sentences and improved verbal acuity within 20-30 minutes; Alzheimer's is sometimes called 'type 3 diabetes.'
  • Ferriss credits 3 weeks of strict ketosis with resolving his post-Lyme cognitive symptoms, and reports a 4-5 out of 5 success rate with friends' documented Lyme cases.
  • Roblox has about 120 million daily users, roughly 9 billion hours of engagement per month, peaks over 40 million concurrent users, and accounts for about 3% of all gaming worldwide.
  • Roblox creators earned more than $1 billion in the past year, with thousands able to make a living and at least thousands earning over a million dollars.
  • Roblox gives every employee a CGM and labels all office snacks on two axes (whole-food and 'good energy'), inspired by Casey Means' book.
  • Baszucki's billboard message is 'Feed your head' (a Surrealistic Pillow reference), and he closes recommending heavy cream in coffee as an easy entry to ketosis.