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Tim Ferriss · 2025-03-25

The Real Japan — Craig Mod

Craig Mod tells Tim Ferriss how a working-class kid from Connecticut became a Japan-based bookmaker, writer, and walker.

The Real Japan — Craig Mod
The guest

Craig Mod: Writer, photographer, and book designer based in Japan; runs the Special Projects membership and craigmod.com, and authored the Random House book Things Become Other Things about a 600km COVID-era walk on Japan's Kii Peninsula.

What this episode covers

Tim Ferriss interviews Craig Mod, tracing his path from a lower middle-class post-industrial Connecticut town to Japan, where he has lived for 25 years. They explore how chance access to a neighbor's computer, an early love of books and video games, and a fierce drive to escape scarcity shaped his uncompromising creative life. Craig recounts learning Japanese through music and homestays, a transformative 2009 hike to Annapurna base camp that helped him quit drinking, and viral early articles that launched his career as a voice on books and digital media. The conversation centers on writing as the source of nearly every meaningful relationship in his life, the power of artist residencies and archetypes, and his new book about a Japanese walk and a murdered childhood friend. Ferriss and Mod agree to split the material into two episodes because there is too much to cover.

Recommended on this episode

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A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius

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“That's an incredible book, right? In the moment that was like, what is happening? This book is so meta”
“Dave Edgars Pirate Shop, he's got his heartbreaking work of staggering genius comes out. That's an incredible book, right?”— Craig Mod
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“that's an incredible interview. Just talk about tenacity. Like infinite infinite tenacity.”
“I listened to the Brandon Sanderson interview. I mean, that's an incredible interview. Just talk about tenacity. Like infinite infinite tenacity.”— Craig Mod
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Train Dreams

Denis Johnson

“I've read that book probably 15, 20 times. I've mapped it out. The language, the poetry of it, the story, the conciseness of it, the economy of the language.”
“one of the first books Lynn recommended to me was Dennis Johnson, Train Dreams. I've read that book probably 15, 20 times. I've mapped it out.”— Craig Mod
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Coming Through Slaughter

Michael Ondaatje

“this is like a book of poetry in a form of novel/historical fiction. I mean, it's just incredible.”
“Michael Andon, you know, he's first and foremost a poet. You read things like Coming Through Slaughter and this is like a book of poetry in a form of novel”— Craig Mod
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Little, Big

John Crowley

“It checks the boxes that you're talking about... I will recommend that one as well.”
“John Crowley, also a poet, Little Big is the name of the book. It checks the boxes that you're talking about.”— Tim Ferriss
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Freedom

Freedom

“just block the internet using like freedom apps like Freedom”
“just block the internet using like freedom apps like Freedom. Turn your smartphone off. Don't sleep with your smartphone in your bedroom.”— Craig Mod
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Pilgrim at Tinker Creek

Annie Dillard

“the most beautiful poetic sort of diary... I pick up Annie Dillard. I read two paragraphs. I can't stop myself from running over and starting writing.”
“Annie Dillard's Pilgrim at Tinker Creek. she just wrote the most beautiful poetic sort of diary non-fiction narrative non-fiction description”— Craig Mod
BookRecommended

Thrilled to Death

Lynne Tillman

“she has a great book that just came out called Thrilled to Death... it's amazing amazing stuff”
“she has a great book that just came out called Thrilled to Death, which if you're going to start Anywhere with Lynn, she's so funny.”— Craig Mod
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Pattern Recognition

William Gibson

“Pattern Recognition is an incredible book. I read it once every couple of years. It's beautiful. There's a lot of poetry in it.”
“Pattern Recognition is an incredible book. I read it once every couple of years. It's beautiful. There's a lot of poetry in it.”— Craig Mod
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“my favorite moment of a documentary about photographers is the Sally Man documentary”
“my favorite moment of a documentary about photographers is the Sally Man documentary. she has all these gorgeous ethereal black and white photos”— Craig Mod

The guest's own work

BookBy the guestISBN verified

Things Become Other Things

Craig Mod

“It's my fourthcoming book coming out with Random House. this book is about a walk I did during COVID on the key peninsula of Japan”— Craig Mod

Also referenced (named, not recommended)

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The Elements of Typographic Style

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“Reading Robert Bringhurst's Elements of Typographic Style over and over and over and over. It's so dogeared my copy of it.”— Craig Mod
ProductReferenced

Panasonic Lumix GF1

Panasonic

“This is 2009 and it was the Panasonic GF1. It was this tiny little camera. it was also this amazing camera and it was micro four thirds”— Craig Mod
BookReferenced

The Stranger

Albert Camus

“We had both brought The Stranger by Kimu. It was like, oh my god, we're faded.”— Craig Mod
BookReferencedISBN verified

Neuromancer

William Gibson

“he has a quote that people see in Silicon Valley quite a lot, which is pulled from Neurommancer, the future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed.”— Tim Ferriss
MediaReferenced

Jiro Dreams of Sushi

David Gelb

“it's like quality, quality, quality. There is like a Jirro Dreams of Sushi aspect to it”— Tim Ferriss
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Atomic Habits

James Clear

“A lot of this is also like very Atomic Habits style stuff. Who are you going to be? And how are you going to set yourself up to be successful?”— Craig Mod

Big reveals from this episode

  • Craig reveals the most affecting story of his recent life is the adoption material and meeting his birth mom, which he says he has never talked about publicly in English anywhere before this interview.
  • Craig describes a 40-day trip through Tibet with a girlfriend during which he was possessed by a spirit, spoke in Tibetan in his sleep while cradling something not there, and was taken by a hotel manager to a Tibetan dream reader.
  • Craig admits his alcoholism ruined that intense relationship; she rightfully punched him in the face, and losing her was the biggest psychic damage of his adult life, leading him to start running at 3am through Tokyo.
  • Craig recounts climbing to Annapurna base camp on his 29th birthday as the culmination of getting off alcohol, an experience that made him believe he could generate magic and self-worth on his own.
  • Craig reveals he published his essay on books and the iPad, went to bed in Japan, and woke to find the New York Times had written about it and his inbox held hundreds of emails, transforming him into a recognized voice overnight.
  • Craig explains his forthcoming Random House book Things Become Other Things grew from a 600km, one-month COVID walk in 2021 on the Kii Peninsula, into which his murdered childhood best friend Brian unexpectedly entered the narrative.
  • Craig reveals his childhood friend Brian was murdered just weeks after graduating high school, and his own high school was publicly named by Betsy DeVos as one of the worst high schools in America.
  • Craig reveals that author William Gibson blurbed Things Become Other Things, which felt to him like the hand of God coming down to approve his work.

Worth remembering

  • A divorced, lonely neighbor who had lost his son gave the young Craig the key to his house and bought him his own phone line so he could use the computer; Craig went to thank him ~10 years later and found he had died of a heart attack.
  • Craig was doing ANSI art and got into IRC around age 12-13, connecting with older artists mostly in California who later invited him to intern at their startup after high school.
  • Craig's first Tokyo homestay was a working-class udon shop family where the 11-year-old son masturbated around the house, a Korean laborer slept in the closet and asked him nightly to come to church, and an arcade friend bought him a full-body snowsuit to sleep in because the uninsulated house was freezing.
  • Craig is color blind; he can see strong vibrant red well, which is why his design work has been black, white, and red for 25 years.
  • Craig wrote his viral Panasonic GF1 camera review partly on Adderall in Harlem, put affiliate links on it, and it generated roughly $20,000 in affiliate fees in a month from selling millions of dollars of cameras.
  • Craig lived in central Tokyo through his 20s needing only about $1,000 a month to cover rent, food, and entertainment, letting him work uncompromisingly on books.
  • During his 23-25 era Craig was making about $15,000 a year, supplementing book work with CSS consulting.
  • At age 24 Craig was invited to be a judge at the Art Directors Club in New York, an email he initially thought was a joke.
  • At Flipboard (employee number eight or nine) Craig was paid $30,000 a month while paying about $1,000 a month rent in Palo Alto, banking it as future freedom.
  • Craig keeps his phone out of the bedroom and out of sight until after lunch when writing, and reads two paragraphs of Annie Dillard's Pilgrim at Tinker Creek to jump-start his writing; he has reread Denis Johnson's Train Dreams 15-20 times.