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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27

Joe Rogan Experience #2049 - Coleman Hughes

Joe Rogan and Coleman Hughes range across the migrant crisis, vaccine skepticism, the Israel-Hamas war, AI, mind-reading tech, and ancient civilizations.

Joe Rogan Experience #2049 - Coleman Hughes
The guest

Coleman Hughes: Writer, podcast host, and columnist known for commentary on race, politics, media, and culture; host of the 'Conversations with Coleman' podcast.

What this episode covers

Coleman Hughes joins Joe Rogan for a wide-ranging conversation recorded in October 2023. They open on New York City's migrant crisis and its roots in the state constitution, then pivot to a long critique of mainstream media, the revolving door between the FDA and pharma, and a nuanced discussion of RFK Jr. and vaccine skepticism. The middle of the episode is dominated by the recent October 7th Hamas attack and the Israel-Gaza war, including the misreported hospital explosion and the question of whether a just war can be waged. They close on gene editing, AI and consciousness, brain-reading technology, deceptive 'net carbs' food labeling, ancient civilizations, and UAPs.

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Big reveals from this episode

  • Coleman traces NYC's migrant housing obligation to a 1930s state constitutional amendment that courts later interpreted so strictly the mayor has no legal recourse to relocate migrants.
  • Coleman flags that the Biden administration negotiated a deal to deport Venezuelan migrants directly to Venezuela, suggesting a political motive tied to anti-socialist voting tendencies.
  • Coleman cites that around 2000, seven of thirteen people who approved the RotaShield vaccine at the CDC/FDA had financial ties to companies making that vaccine.
  • Coleman lays out the leading theory of how Hamas's October 7th attack succeeded: two years of planning, lulling Israel, IDF redeployment to the West Bank, a holiday, and internal judicial-reform turmoil.
  • The Gaza hospital strike story is dissected: media ran with '500 killed by Israeli airstrike' before it emerged it was a Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket landing in a parking lot.
  • Coleman predicts 'bottom-up eugenics' within three years via polygenic embryo scoring for traits like height, intelligence, and depression risk.
  • Coleman describes Nita Farahany's reporting on brain-reading tech, including a Chinese factory monitoring workers' EEG signals to detect slacking.
  • They expose that 'net carbs' was a term coined by Atkins in 2001 to sidestep FDA labeling rules, with no legal definition.

Worth remembering

  • Vitamin D deficiency, severe in some melanin-rich populations lacking sun, was largely ignored as a COVID risk factor in favor of a binary vaccine narrative.
  • Gain-of-function research was halted under Obama in 2014; Coleman argues scientists pursue it because it's 'cool,' like giving a kid Legos.
  • Rabies is described as a real zombie-like virus that makes animals fearless and aggressive to spread itself by biting.
  • Cordyceps fungus infects ants, prompting other ants to carry the infected one far away before the fungus releases spores.
  • Domestic pigs released into the wild revert to wild boars within weeks, growing tusks, thicker hair, and an extended snout.
  • A Chinese CRISPR experiment intended to make twins HIV-resistant may have inadvertently enhanced their learning and memory.
  • The Empire State Building's spire was justified as a dirigible mooring mast, a pretext to make it taller than the Chrysler Building.
  • Younger Dryas impact theory: comet strikes ~11,800 years ago, evidenced by iridium and nanodiamonds in core samples, may have reset civilization.
  • American alligators can regrow up to 9 inches of tail using cartilage and connective tissue instead of bone.
  • In the Michigan Whitmer kidnapping case, 12 of the 14 people involved were reportedly federal informants.